Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier

[DarrenMW]

I found a London hatter named Henry Pickering, who in 1819 was the victim of  atheft from his store in St.Giles, London!

case was at the Old Bailey.

[avm228]

I've edited my post above about the Pickford/Smith marriage in 1827 - looks like they may have drifted south of the river and baptised a daughter Jane Maria in Southwark in 1828.  No obvious sign of any other children.

[DarrenMW]

The irony of the Pickford name, and the constant upheaval isn't lost on me 

Surprised there's no record on her birth though.

I've edited my post above about the Pickford/Smith marriage in 1827 - looks like they may have drifted south of the river and baptised a daughter Jane Maria in Southwark in 1828.  No obvious sign of any other children.

[avm228]

We still haven't got to the bottom of where WALKER came from. One rather gets the feeling that names were plucked out of the air on a whim.

 

[DarrenMW]

rechecking everything Anna.

Would purchasing this be beneficial? What does a UK Death cert generally divulge.

I'll certainly purchase it, just wondering what can be expected.
Thanks!

Here you go:

Death Dec qtr 1938

Thomas R. RICHEY aged 73

Brighton 2b 344

 

(Perhaps your grandmother's recollection was a year or so out?  There aren't any other suitable deaths).

[avm228]

Unfortunately the death certificate is unlikely to add a great deal - see

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/deaths.htm

[avm228]

Incidentally I took a short cycle detour through Brooke Street/Brookes Market yesterday to see whether I could take a photo of no.10 for you - but other than the church which looms over the north-west corner of the market there is nothing still there which would have been there in the 1860s.

There's a bit more on the reshaping of the area from old slums to large-scale social housing here: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=44898335723&topic=5127.

St Alban's school (albeit in newer buildings) seems to be going strong, if the lunchtime noise from the playground is anything to go by! I wonder where the Hollingsworth/Smith/Walker children went to school?

[avm228]

Interestingly St Alban the Martyr's church is strongly Anglo-Catholic - perhaps our boy received his early spiritual education there and turned to the Roman Catholic church later on. Alternatively it may be that Eliza was always Roman Catholic and brought her children up in that faith - I don't think we have yet found a Church of England baptism for any of Eliza's children (in contrast to Isabella's).

Do the naval records give a religion for young Hollingsworth in the 1880s?

[DarrenMW]

Jan-Anna...Apologies for my short sabatical, I've been very busy and what with Easter etc.....

A couple of isues I'm drawn to as i comb over everything once again.


The Hollingsworth clan drift East at somepoint after 1871. We see Eliza (Tom's spouse) dying in 1874 in West Ham.
18 months later , in Mar 1876 Tom and Mary Hill (any sign of a wedding or definate birth location for Mary?) produce Edward T.Hollingsworth in Maryland Road, Walthamstow (any specifics on the cert Jan?)
Eliza (Tom's daughter) dies in West Ham 1876.

I'm trying to unearth any info on Tom (and his boy who i'm convinced becomes Richey) in the 1871-1881 period.

Secondly,...

To Anna's great point re: 1911 census where Thomas Richey is at 16, Maiden Lane , aged 46 (ergo b.1864 whoop whoop Hollingsworth Walker if you please!) . Perhaps Richey lists himself as 'son' as Mary Hill, his defacto stepmother since aged 12, is the resident as is merely absent on census night 1911. in fact, i believe she is with one of her sons that night.

Jan, do you have anything on Mary for the period after Tom goes into Workhouse in 1904?

 

D