Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier

[avm228]

Wow - that's great Jan! I will insert them into the timelines above.

Could she have been a SMITH who became a WALKER? I seem to recall seeing a marriage in the early 1850s between a Reuben WALKER and Eliza SMITH. Reuben then seemed to disappear. Might be worth a look...

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Anna

I will check that one out. Have you any idea what could have happened to Elizabeth Hollingsworth born 1824 Southampton sister of Tom Hollingsworth Occupation teacher of music as she appears in one census then in the next census she is not there and then she appears in the following census and then thats where nothing more is heard of her.

Thanks again

Jan

[DarrenMW]

great stuff again Jan!....these past few days have encouraged me greatly.

And yes, I concur,...Anna you are wonderful 

Now unless anyone can find any sighting (alive or dead
) of Robert Thos Hollingsworth Walker (b.23.5.1864) I will remain VERY positive that this is our guy.

Hi Anna
Through your brilliant work i have found the births of Alice and Eliza the two other children of Thomas Hollingswowrth and Eliza again their names were Hollingsworth walker. Now Sarah Eliza (Smith) must have been Walker so now its finding a birth for her. i have found one Eliza Walker born 1839 City of London (i Wonder) Many Many Thanks Anna.

Jan

[DarrenMW]

Anna...Jan and i spoke for ages last night. We are in agreement that after Robert Thos Hollingsworth (Walker) was thrown in jail by the navy and discharged in 1872, it is viable that he adopts the name Richey and joins the army in 1883.

The name change could be explained by not wanting to disclose to the Army his real identity in case;

a) they didnt accept him as a recent felon, and one that was just thrown out of the Navy.

b) He was on the run!

We discussed, and agreed, that recruiting background checks werent so stringent in Victorian times!

 

[avm228]

Yes, I agree with all of that.  If this hypothesis is correct I wasn't all that far off in reply #99 (p7 of the thread)!

[avm228]

Anna

I will check that one out. Have you any idea what could have happened to Elizabeth Hollingsworth born 1824 Southampton sister of Tom Hollingsworth Occupation teacher of music as she appears in one census then in the next census she is not there and then she appears in the following census and then thats where nothing more is heard of her.

Thanks again

Jan

Jan - Elizabeth was (as you say) a teacher of music in 1851.  I don't recall seeing her after that - can you remind me?

If we don't see her after 1851 there is a possible death in Southampton, Dec qtr 1858.

Also missing in action is Helen/Ellen Hollingsworth b abt 1860, whom I can't trace after 1881. Come to think of it, I can't find any record of a birth, baptism, marriage or death for her - if it wasn't for the censuses 1861-1881 we wouldn't know she existed!

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Anna
the story of ellen Margaret Hollingsworth is born 1860 to Thomas r hollingsworth and isabella she is on the 1861 1871 1881 census, she wed William Custance Meadwell and they had 8 children apparently william left Ellen (not sure how true that is) she then weds Frederick Joseph Morant Jones in 1911 in Edmonton. I have a page from a dairy that states her and fred had a boarding house and that they were a happy fun loving family and that they were spiritulists. Ellen died in 1920.
Noe elizabeth Hollingsworth appears in 1841 St Clement danes and 1851 census St pancras then she missing in the 1861 census there is just Catherine het mother and catherine her sister then shes back in the 1871 census with mother and sister in St george London then thats the last that she is heard of.

Jan

[avm228]

Hi Jan- yes I had just found Ellen Margaret (born Jun qtr 1860 West London) and her 1884 marriage to Mr Meadwell.  How nice that you have inherited a diary giving a bit of colour to her family life!

I will have another look for Elizabeth.

[DarrenMW]

Anna,...reply #99......an eternity ago!.....this thread certainly ran and ran.

I assume there's no wedding for Hollingsworth and Eliza Walker,....it wouldnt be THAt simple would it, especially as Mr.Hollingsworth never felt being married to one lady was a restraining factor for raising families with other ones