New to huguenot records - connecting families - help sought

[richarde1979]

Hello Anne.

It is a strange thought our ancestors rubbing shoulders so long ago, and us here swapping notes on them, does make you wonder what they would have made of it all!

I went back through my notes and actually the lady I was thinking of was researching the Gransart family, who were also of Quievy and came over with this last wave of refugees. I did research the Machu's when I had a thread running on another website (not sure if you can name them here...), but have just found it and it was for an Anne so it may have been yourself also (about 2 years ago).

Regards

Richard

[PaulW62]

Hi Richard

I was reading about Ben's progress on the Fradins and Morin.  I hope Ben sees this note.  I am pleased that at least we known where some of our common Huguenot ancestors came from.  (By the way, if anyone is interested, the novel 'Angelique in Revolt' one of a well regarded series of French historical novels by Sergeanne Golon is partly set in the Poitou region of the 1670s among Huguenot families). 

But that is not why I write.  Matilda Auber (my grandmother's grandmother and descendant of the Fradins) married a George Rowley in 1868.  The Rowleys were from Pattingham, S. Staffordshire, but otherwise nothing remarkable as far as I know. 

Two things: I recall noticing that Pattingham parish records seem to have some significance with the Huguenot Society.  Do you know if this is correct, and if so, eaxctly why - apart fom the obvious?
I had also come across JP Roelly's website (the London Fradins are listed on the site interestingly).
Could the Pattingam Rowleys also be of Huguenot descent?  I have no reason to think they were, but I have been puzzled by George's marriage to someone from the Hoxton/ Clerkenwell area.

I would like you opinion, Richard.

Cheers.

PaulW

[richarde1979]

Hello Paul

I can't say I am personally aware of the Huguenot link to Pattingham. I have not come across this info before myself. I would have thought though by that late a date 1868, a seperate 'Huguenot' community marrying within their own, and over great distances, was more or less a thing of the past, even for the latter refugees. The Huguenot Society was set up to increase knowledge of the Huguenots as a historical people in London only a decade and a bit after this.

Regards

Richard

[PaulW62]

Richard

It is a late date and there is no obvious Huguenot connection back to the 1860s.  The surname Rowley may be a local name.  JP Roelly's website though is nevertheless an interesting co-incidence.

Paul W

[richarde1979]

Rowley/Roelly agree is a coincidence. Perhaps it does have a French origin and was one of those the Normans bought over..

[PaulW62]

Richard

You are probably right, but I wll keep an eye open for any leads.

Paul w

[joboy]

The name I am researching is TUTCHIN which is prominent in BKM and DEV from 1540's and appears with several variants such as TOUCHIN;TUCHIN;TWICHINGE etc which is understandable.
Also in London there are TYCHEN (two baptisms 1609 and 1612) and TUTCHINGE (two more baptisms 1613 and 1614) with the same parents recorded at St Dunstan's Stepney whilst at St Botolph Bishopsgate and St James Clerkenwell there are several with more name variations,within what appears to be the same stock with names like TOUTCHIN and TUTCHING and TOUCHEN from 1620 to the late 1700's all within a very narrow (1.5 mile) radius.
I can find no evidence that the name(s) were from a Huguenot source .... but it sounds perhaps(?) likely.
There is an odd one though which is the baptism of Pier TEUCHIN at the Walloon or strangers church in January 1699 and his father was Isaac.
Any input or advice would be much appreciated.
Joe

[richarde1979]

Hello Joe

I cannot say it is  a name I have come across before in my own researches (mostly London based) into the Huguenot communities in England. If the name was already prominent in England as early as the 1540's I'd say that probably points strongly against a Huguenot origin. Edward VI put the first charter in place late that decade (1547) for the the first French Protestant Church to be set up in England, at London (Threadneedle Street), so this is the very earliest possible date for any refugees. But very few would have come until the religious wars broke out in France 1562-1598 and even these did not leave a particularly lasting impact as many returned to France after them. The vast majority of Britians Huguenot families would instead be traceable to those who came from the late 1670's onwards during the later persecutions under Louis XIV.

Regards

Richard

[joboy]

Thank you Richard ....... that allows me to refocus on saxon origins.
Much appreciated.
Joe