PURSGLOVE of Whitby and Rocksby

[trish1120]

Hi Kylie B,
I think you mean 1754 and 1731?

[trish1120]

Is it possible you a are missing a generation or have Josephs children wrong
If Joseoh was born c 1716 and married abt 1740 his daughters would have been quite old to have married in 1781 and 1789.

[Kylie B]

HI Trish
Yes- I did mean in the 1700's!!

I could be missing a generation....however, Robert born 1710 and possibly married 1739 is definately the father of Robert Jnr (also a Blockmaker in Norwich) and Mary- born around 1754.

Mary and Robert definately have cousins- Sarah and Rachel Pursglove. THis information is from Robert Jnr's will. 

The girls who married in 1781 and 1789 are definately the daughters of a Joseph Pursglove and his wife Ann......

For them to be cousins of Robert and Mary, they must be the daughters of  Robert Seniors brother- Joseph Pursglove, who married Ann unknown. It is such a coincidence for it not to be them....

I suspect they are the younger children from Josephs marriage....Mary was born 15 years after her parents married, so if these girls were born a similar time into Joseph's marriage, then they would have been born approx the same time as Mary....

It is an unusual name too..what are your thoughts?
Kylie B

[WolfieSmith]

Hello Kylie,

I've got access to some Quaker records. You are lucky they were Quakers as they kept really detailed records when the C of E was just recording names.

The birth record for Mary Pursglove from the Quakers monthly meeting in Kings Lynn, Norfolk, in 1754 (Quakers didn't do baptisms) :

Mary, the daughter of Robert and Rachel Pursglove was borne this 9th of the 3rd month 1754, about 8 in the morning.

Below the birth record is written in bold "First wife to Aaron Richardson, 2nd to George Hawkins". Obviously added to the register much later.

The previous two entries in the register are the burials of George Pursglove 5/5/1753 and Joseph Pursglove 4/5/1752, both sons of Robert and Rachel.

A few pages back in the same register are the births of George 4/4/1746 and Joseph 5/9/1748.

Also a burial of Rachel Pursglove, sister of Robert Pursglove, Blockmaker, 26/5/1745.

Further on in the register are burials of :

Robert Pursglove Snr., aged 69, Master Block Maker, died 10/12/1779. Mentions that he died between 10 and 11 o'clock and was buried near his brother Joseph.
Robert Pursglove, Master Block Maker, son of Robert and Rachel, died 6/12/1811 aged 70.

Alan.

[Clogger]

I noticed you mentioned Unthank in your family. I think this family is from the Yorkshire area. There are a family of folk singers with this name. Google Unthank folk singers and you may be able to get in touch with them.  Today, the spelling eof the village/hamlet is Roxby. Roxby has a Norman church still in use.  I'm not from this area but have friends in the vicinity.

[Kylie B]

Hi Alan
Thank you so very much for all of this!!!

Can I just confirm-  these records were from Norfolk not Yorkshire? Just checking as the possible marriage for Robert and Rachel appears to be in Yorkshire.  Are these records avail online anywhere- I am new to Quaker research, so any tips would be grand!!

YES- Mary Pursglove, daughter of Robert and Rachel was the wife of Aaron Richardson, and then George Hawkins. Great to have it confirmed I am looking at the right woman!

And now we have a few more children of the marriage of Robert Pursglove and Rachel possibly Unthank:
Robert Jnr b 1741 and died 1811- thanks for the age, this fits much better with the marriage!
George born 1746 and died 1753
Joesph born 1748 and died 1752
Mary born 1754

So likely there are a few other children in there somewhere...maybe also died young given they are not mentioned in Robert Jnr's will.

Interesting to have the burial of Robert Snr's sister Rachel- so I take it she did not marry then?

And Robert Snr is buried near his brother Joseph...dont suppose you found his burial did you??!!

There is some connection to th Gore family too here- there was a cousin Rebeckah Gore mentioned in Robert Jnrs will in 1811. Havnt worked that one out yet.

Thanks again Alan- this is all wonderful info!
Kylie B

[WolfieSmith]

Hello Kylie,

Yes, these are records from Norfolk, but I've got access to some Quaker records from Yorkshire as well. Quaker records are very detailed where they exist, but there are lots of gaps.
Rachel mustn't have married, or she would have been referred to on her burial record by her married name, and husband named rather than her brother.
I can't see a burial for Joseph, but there are lots of gaps in the records.
I can't see any Gores in the Norfolk Quaker records.
On the marriage record of Sarah Pursglove 4/5/1781 (daughter of Joseph and Ann, both deceased) to James Lesly, recorded amongst "relatives" are  Rachel Pursglove, Robert Pursglove, Rachel Pursglove Jnr, and Mary Richardson.
There's a death record of Rachel Pursglove, Widow, of Lynne Regis Norfolk, 22/7/1787, aged 76.
Looking at the info you have from the Yorkshire Pursgloves, there is more info on some of the original records you may not have.
The 1705 marriage of Robert Pursglove and Rebekah Sanderson says, Robert Pursglove, son of Robert Pursglove of Roxby, Husbandman deceased, and Rebekah Sanderson daughter of Thomas Sanderson of Yatton deceased. Among the witnesses are Jane Sanderson, Thomas Sanderson, Philip Pursglove, John Pursglove, Ann Sanderson, Katherine Pursglove, Jane Pursglove, Elisabeth Pursglove.
pm me your email address and I'll send you copies of the original documents.

Alan.

[Kylie B]

Hi Alan
So although we think Robert Pursglove and Rachel Unthank married in Yorkshire, it appears all their children were born in Norfolk. So they must have moved there shortly after marrying I guess....

Sarah Pursglove's marriage witnesses- there must have been her sister Rachel Pursglove, her cousins Robert Pursglove and Mary Richardson, and do you think Rachel Pursglove Jnr would be their aunt- the unmarried sister of Robert and Joseph?

Thanks for the info on parents of Robert and Rebeckah.

Will PM you
Kylie B