Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO

[PrueM]

hi JM - the website I mentioned earlier lists the ships in order of arrival date - somewhere in the entry for each ship there should be a link to view a scan of the crew list 

http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au  shows a ship called the Juno (presumably a private/merchant vessel) arriving twice into Sydney, as Just Moi has already found - once in January 1855 and once in October 1855.  The January arrival shows they came in from the "Bay of Pines".

 

[majm]

Hi there,

Thanks Prue, alas the mariners site does not yet have the arrivals of Captn Abby and his Juno (300 tons) for April 1855 (ex PJ abt 14 Feb 1855), or June or July or Aug or Sept 1855 ... SMH online has Abby’s Juno listed for those months under “Vessels Expected in Sydney”...  In past years I have transcribed for mariners site.     

Re HMS Juno, released from Quarantine 23 Feb 1855, came up the harbour and anchored at Farm Cove as per SMH Saturday 24 February 1855 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12966081  Err... If Crabby’s chap was HMS Juno, then perhaps he had shore leave on Tuesday 6 March ... see http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12966405  and http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12966418

Searching online newspapers especially the SMH ... for March 1855  for “Juno” and there’s names mentioned for some the crew of HMS Juno ... (those names could help when searching for Royal Navy records for Crabby’s GG Edmonds as they may have served with him ... perhaps he deserted ...)
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12966420
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12966466
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12966516
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12966721
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12967191  (Seven un-named Deserters from HMS Juno) 

I haven't ventured further on the newspapers online for the HMS JUNO ....
 
Cheers,  JM...

[EDO]

Thank you JM, Prue , Deborah and others for taking such an interest in assisting me to find my GGGrandfather, George Gilbert EDMONDS; particularly his arrival in Port Jackson.

His obituary [1906] stated that he came to Australia on the HMS JUNO but, as yet, I cannot confirm that he was on the crew or an immigrant from Wexford IRE where he was said to have been born abt 1828.

I have been in contact with several Churches in Wexford, but, the Dublin Archives advise me that the records of the 1830's era were destroyed by fire many years' ago.

He came to South Brisbane abt 1860 [possibly following Separation from the Colony of NSW].  He was a successful builder and died in 1906:  He is buried under a large obelisk in South Brisbane Cemetery.

In 1856 he had a Bowling Alley in Sydney and lived in Norton Street for a while, incl. after his marriage in 1857.

The HMS JUNO was the resident Governor's vessel in NSW and frequently took 'tours' to Pacific 'out-stations'

I note that there were 2 other Junos of lesser size [and without guns].  One ran aground in Moreton Bay and the other [traded with Fiji] was wrecked in New Zealand.

The HMS JUNO was de-commissioned and became a Police Boat and later a Training vessel [the 'ATALANTA" - it disappeared in the 1880s in the Bermuda triangle with over 200 cadets on board.

Any further information, no matter how miniscule will further assist.

With sincere thanks

EDO

[majm]

Hi there,

Hope I'm not straying too far from the thread, but I  have (finally) figured out why the NSW GG was not quarantined ! He was not on the HMS Juno in January  .   

Sir William T DENISON arrived PJ 17 Jan 1855 on the Tasmania (of course from Tas, where he had been Governor)  ....  Sir William was replacing the outgoing NSW Governor General, FITZ ROY.  Both those gentlemen were considered to be Governor General of Australia during the years immediately before and after the separation of (and thus formation of colonies with their own governors) Victoria and Queensland.   The SMH in various articles in 1855 refers to Sir William as Governor General of Australia as though it is a separate commision over and above his commision as NSW Governor.  Perhaps to give the status a "higher" level if disputes arose across colonial borders...    Interestingly, most texts indicate the first GG was Lord Hopetoun,  perhaps they ought to explain that Hopetoun was the first GG of the Commonwealth of Australia  , but not the first GG of Australia.

Thankyou EDO for your sincere thanks, as you can see from the info immediately above, I have enjoyed myself while looking for my own chap, PRICE, a crewman on the Juno (err... and I'm learning ...  there's three vessels to sort through !) . 

  If ever a Trivia question arises as to who was the first GG of OZ,  may you smile and  answer Hopetoun, and add although could be Fitz Roy  or Denison   

Cheers,  JM

[Crabby]

Oh dear, JM, I may have mislead you a little.

The 'GG' I am chasing up on was not the Governor General:  He was George Gilbert EDMONDS!  my GG-Grandfather.  [c1828-1906]

It is coincidental that the vessel I am following up on, the HMS JUNO, was also the fishing boat' for the GG and his friends:  Hence the frequent shipping movements in andout of Port Jackson.

Thanks for your interest JM, I don't mind if you continue.  There is a big story about the HMS JUNO an Captain Stephen FREMANTLE.  I understand that the Captains Joournals are in an unsorted format in KEW.

I 'must' [personal wish] find out how he came to Australia.

I do have somebody in Wexford IRE following up on 'scraps' from that area; but there has been no confirmation as yet.  There are about 200 church parishes to follow up in Wexford.

Thank you for your continued interest

CRABBY

[Dundee]

Hi Crabby,

Documentation for HM ships is retained in the UK and you may have to get somebody to check ship's musters etc for you.  The Archives have musters 1853 to 1857.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a46/   

Debra 

[EDO]

Hello Dundee et al

Thank you for your assistance.

Crabby

[Padraigin76]

See Jean Duncan Foley's book "In Quarantine".  Apparently there were no deaths from smallpox at the Q.Station.

[Top-of-the-hill]

  I know this is a very old thread, but I thought I would add to it. My great grandfather was on the Juno as a very young man, his first ship, and I was brought up knowing a certain amount about this voyage. In the last day or so I have again revisited the subject, and collected some UK newspaper items, including mention of the quarantine. It seems to have been an unhappy ship with a possibly unbalanced captain, and there was a lot of trouble when she returned home.
   Apparently there were leading articles in the Sydney journals which "speak out boldly their opinions upon Captain Fremantle's conduct." I would be interested to read some of them, but I am not sure if they are available to me on-line?
    Regarding the fate of the Juno, renamed Atalanta, and lost with a crew of trainees, great grandfather was of the opinion that she should never have been used as a training ship, as she was difficult to handle. I found a report containing evidence from another former crewman which confirmed this.
   None of this put gr.grandad off the Navy - he served his 20 years!