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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 01:18 GMT (UK) »
 ;)

For a long time I've thought there's TWO or more vessels named Juno ... in OZ waters in 1850's ... I haven't ever found the time to really consider that in any depth, but its on my "to do" list.  

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/709747
The Maitland Mercury & Hunter River General Advertiser Wednesday 12 December 1855

Here's HMS Juno with Cptn Freemantle and Mr Pritchard undertaking some important enquiries back in Sept 1855 ...  (The Maitland newspaper often had greater depth and wider coverage of info than say the SMH in those mid 19thC decades)...


Oh, Prue,  that link could be very handy ....

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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 01:27 GMT (UK) »


JUNO   Launched 1844.07.01  Hull Wood   Screw: Wood     Type: 6th rate   Builder's Measure 923 tons  No.of Guns 26   Fate: 1880   SB = ships book in PRO London1878: =
 NOTE: 'Mariner'; police ship. 1878 = 'Atalanta', t.s. 1880.02.12   foundered in Atlantic

http://www.pdavis.nl/MidVicShips.php?page=7

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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 02:29 GMT (UK) »
Umm...

http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/I/02546.html

If HMS Juno was in quarantine in PJ in 1855, then it seems it would be first half of that year ...

12 Oct 1854 depart Bombay for Sydney via Trincomalee (left there 29 Nov)
31 Jan 1855 arrive Sydney

7 Jun 1855 Depart Sydney on a cruise.
23 Jun 1855 Arrive Sydney from a cruise

11 Jul 1855 Arrive Sydney from a cruise.
7 Aug 1855 Depart Sydney on a cruise.

29 Sep 1855 Arrive Tahiti from Pitcairn Island,  detained there a few days and then proceeded to Pago Pago, 
Oct 18 1855 Arrive Apia from Pago Pago.
17 Oct 1855 Reported as having arrived at Upolo.

30 Nov 1855 News received at Sydney that the Juno and Dido are reported to be at Opolu, the former was about to proceed to Vavou, and the latter to Tahiti.
27 Dec 1855 Arrived Sydney, from Apia, 12 Nov ; Ovalon, 9 Dec ; Norfolk Island, 20 Dec. RoP of cruise among the South Sea Islands, including Pitcairn, Papeite, Manus, Apia, Ovalon, Norfolk Island

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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 02:47 GMT (UK) »
Yes, found an article in the NLA's newspapers online stating that she was quarantined in the January as she had smallpox on board.  Unfortunately no names given.


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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 05:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I've err... made some spare minutes this afternoon  ;) to try to figure out if there were two vessels named Juno in and around OZ in 1855.... hoping that along the way I'll find info about quarantine and list of names etc.  Only looking at the newspapers  ;D

The Barque, "Juno" was at Hobsons Bay and the River (Melbourne Vic  ;)) as per The Argus, Monday 1 January 1855 but no mention of Quarantine issues in that issue of the paper ... However  
3 Jan 1855, The Argus has article about another vessel (Pluto) who breached quarantine at Hobsons Bay .... and article about measles onboard another (The Birmingham) into quarantine at (I think) PJ, with 421 emigrants, indicating that's the FIRST case of a ship in quarantine "at this port" ..
AND in same edition (3 Jan, 1855) a lengthy article about JUNO having been trading in South Sea Islands, Captn  Abby (link : http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4802632 ) which again makes me think there's TWO "Juno" vessels ...  one in Sth Seas, the other being HM Storeship Juno bringing the NSW Governor-General to NSW ...  I think the storeship was quarantined, but of course I could be wrong.  If its just one ship, then why was it NOT quarantined in Melbourne ...  ;D and err, did the NSW GG get quarantined in before landing ! ....

Oh well, I'll try to follow the detail up later this evening, and post here with some detailed newspaper info.   Hopefully I'll at least be able to know if two vessels or not...  Fingers crossed I find names in the papers at the Ferguson papers (alas, not keyword searchable and I've messed up the link when inserting it here but )   http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/  I'll also try to get two different "burthern" details ...
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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 05:43 GMT (UK) »
You just need to watch the tonnage.  The Juno arr Jan/Oct 1855 on the Mariner's site was a South Seas trader of 212 tons.  She was bought by Robert Towns in 1852, and was lost when driven on to Moreton Island in Qld in May 1857.  

I don't think you will find any name manifests for HM ships.

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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 07:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Well, well, thanks Debra, that tonnage of 212 versus the 923 that Edo posted earlier... two different vessels .... 

So, to help Crabby's search for the quarantine list ...  and

attempting to confirm that George Gilbert EDMONDS was on the HMS JUNO.

I think both vessels "JUNO" may have been in PJ during January 1855, and to me it seems likely that HMS Juno (the 923 tons one) came up from Melbourne with the NSW GG and was not quarantined, so perhaps the crews list for that vessel would be among the UK archives with Royal Navy paylists etc (UK's WO series, but not sure of the exact number for Stores vessels) ...

Sorry Crabby for confusing the issue for you on this thread.... any thoughts as to which of the JUNO vessels your chap was on?

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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 08:30 GMT (UK) »
If GGE was on HMS Juno as crew, then he would have been Royal Navy, and should be somewhere in the records at the National Archives UK. 

HMS Juno was definitely the one placed in Quarantine in January 1855. 

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Re: Quarantine Sydney 1855 JUNO
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 23 February 10 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Supporting Prue's info re HMS Juno and quarantine...

The other Juno that was at PJ in January, 1855 had been six months away, trading in South Seas ... here's an article.........The Moreton Bay Courier  6 Jan 1855 pg 2... ...  that clinches it for me, six months away ... where would that crew meet smallpox... v  Prue's details re the quarantine for HMS Juno.

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3710797

I have not sighted any names for any of the crew under Captain Abby of the little old South Seas Trader... I think my chap likely crew on that vessel.   One day I'll find him, but not this time, for it will get tangled with Ben Boyd disappearance, and that's another tale and a half. 

Good Luck Crabby with finding your chap.

Cheers,  JM




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