newby looking for help - Henry Smart

[ursulahvz]

hi all
i'm new to this forum though not new to genealogy. i'm south african born currently living in mozambique.  my father in law turns 80 in May 2010 and my husband would like to give him a printed copy of his family tree. i've been able to research most of his family but are having problems with his great grandfather. here is the information i have -
Henry Smart * circa 1861 Glascow, Scotland died 10 Jul 1933 Reismierbult South Africa. Married Wilhelmina Martha Ekstein in Pietermaritzburg South Africa. she died on 2 Dec 1993 at Ventersdorp Hospital, South Africa.  they had three children
Charles Henry Smart
Jessie Ivy Smart
Wilhelmina Martha Smart - Hubby's great grandmother
according to my father in law his mother attended the High Church of England Presbetarian congregation.

i need help in finding marriage records for Henry Smart and birth records for Wilhelmina Martha Ekstein as well as information about their parents. i've worked through NAAIRS and found death notices for both the above but unfortunately their parents' details are given as "unknown/deceased" on these documents.
Any information will greatly be appreciated
groete
Ursulah

[CaroleW]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat

This is a possible 1861 census entry for 7 Kennedy St Glasgow but until the marriage is found it cannot be confirmed as the right entry

All b England except where shown otherwise

Frederick Smart 29 b England occ bottle maker
Mary 26
George F  10
Halliday  8 (female)
Robert   6
Frederick J   4
Henry   1 b Glasgow
John  13 Months suspect this should be 3mths b Glasgow
Glasgow Inner High ED 86 Page  22 Line 8

[CaroleW]

Per IGI at www.familysearch.org

HENRY PHILIP SMART   Birth:  09 MAY 1859   Central District, Glasgow, Lanark  Father:  FREDERICK SMART   Mother:  MARY EWES (sounds like Hughes??)
 
JOHN SMART   Birth:  15 MAR 1861   Central District, Glasgow, Lanark   Father:  FREDERICK JOHN SMART  Mother:  MARY JANE HUGHES 

Per freebmd

Marriages March qtr 1851 
 
Mary Jane Hughes     
Frederick John Smart    Bristol  11 146

[ursulahvz]

hi carole
thank you for your efforts.  this however is not the right family.  none of the names fit in
Henry was born on 10 Apr 1862 don't have d.o.b. for his wife Wilhelmina Martha Ekstein. their death notice mention they were married in pietermaritzburg, natal, south africa
thanks again
U

[CaroleW]

Hi

I will check the 1871 but your post above said 

* circa 1861 Glascow

Had you not seen this IGI entry?

HENRY BIRRELL SMART   Birth:  10 APR 1862   High Church, Glasgow 
Father:  CHARLES SMART    Mother:  MARY BIRRELL 

CHARLES SMART    Spouse:  MARY BIRREL   Marriage:  18 MAR 1846   Glasgow, Lanark, 
 

[ursulahvz]

hi
yes i have that information. am i not on the South African section of the forum? if not i do appologise for the confusion.

i'm looking for the marriage information for Henry Birrell Smart to Wilhelmina Martha Eckstein in Pietermaritzburg, Natal, South Africa.  this information was taken from their death notices which i got from NAAIRS south africa
U

[ursulahvz]

hi
apologies if i caused any confusion.  i'm also talking to people on the Scotland forum and they have helped me find the information for the parents of Henry Birrell Smart.

i was told to put a message on the SA forum section pertaining to the marriage of Henry and Wilhelmina hence.......

i need help in finding marriage records for Henry Smart and birth records for Wilhelmina Martha Ekstein as well as information about Wilhelmina's parents.

i've worked through NAAIRS and found death notices for both Henry and Wilhelmina, but unfortunately their parents' details are given as "unknown/deceased" on these documents. i have subsequently been able to find Henry's parents details with some great help of the friendly people on the Scotland forum. this needs to be confirmed still though.

groete

[rutti tutti]

Hi Ursula,
Natal marriages are being transcribed here in Durban. There are records available in the FHC if you ever come to Durbs - unfortunately I am not able to get in there at present. Genealogyworld.net has details of the Natal marriage project.
I will look and see what else I can find.
Ruth

[ursulahvz]

hi Ruth
i live in mozambique, don't think i'll be coming to Durban very soon.
pardon my ignorance but what is the FHC?

thank you very much for your efforts in helping me find details of my ancestors.  i appreciate it very much
have a wonderful day.
groete
ursulah