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Searching for Marriage Record
« on: Thursday 18 February 10 18:41 GMT (UK) »
Can SKP help me find marriage record for;

Bride ??WARD  / GROOM ?? GOODMAN.

Years 1920-1925 Liverpool.

I have found details of X3 Sons born Liverpool 1924/1927 & 1932.

All named Goodman Mothers name given WARD.
The boys are Francis J /William P/& Vincent all now deceased.

Victoria
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
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Re: Searching for Marriage Record
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 February 10 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Think you are going to need a birth cert as there is nothing in Liverpool but there are 2 male Goodman marriages to female Ward's elsewhere on freebmd

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Re: Searching for Marriage Record
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 February 10 19:08 GMT (UK) »
I had on look on free bmd could not find anything :'( :'(
Will look again.

Thanks Carole.

Victoria
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: Searching for Marriage Record
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 February 10 19:31 GMT (UK) »
One possibility is that one of the names is missing on freebmd - it's not at all unusual to find an uneven number of male/female names on the same page. 

However - looking at the Goodman entries - they all have names against them
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Re: Searching for Marriage Record
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 February 10 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Just had another thought

If Ward was married previously - she would not marry as Ward (eg)

Elizabeth Ward marries Joe Bloggs and is widowed

Elizabeth Bloggs marries Mr Goodman

However - baby Goodman's birth cert will show her true maiden name of Ward
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Re: Searching for Marriage Record
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 February 10 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Carole, I never thought of that. However one of my ancestors was married in name of her first marriage not her maiden name. Will send for birth cert.

Victoria
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: Searching for Marriage Record
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 February 10 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi

That's what I meant.  Ward may be her birth maiden name but if she was married previously - she won't have married as Ward which is probably why we can't find a marriage between Goodman/Ward.

However - the children's birth reg will show her true maiden name - not her previous married name
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Searching for Marriage Record
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 February 10 22:17 GMT (UK) »
OK, will keep in touch.

Bye :)

Victoria
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: Searching for Marriage Record
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 February 10 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen that there are two births registered in West Derby of Goodman children with MMN Ward?  The first, in 1919 is also indexed under Ward, implying that the parents aren't married.  The second, in 1922 is indexed only under Goodman.

The following is not conclusive, but might be of interest.

There is a 1921 marriage  in West Derby of an Edwin Goodman and Theresa Neish. 
I can't see a Theresa Neish anywhere in 1911.
There don't appear to be any Goodman births registered with MMN Neish

In Dec Q 1911 a Theresa Wood married Joseph Neish in West Derby. Three births follow this marriage, the last in 1918 (this child died soon after birth).
I can't see a likely death of Joseph Neish.

The only Theresa Wood in West Derby in 1911 is aged 23 (so born 1887/8)
A Theresa Goodman dob 8 Feb 1888 died in 1974 in Alyn & Deeside district.

To sum up, I think Theresa Wood married Joseph Neish and then Edwin Goodman.  She might  have felt she had reason to alter her maiden name to Ward. 

[I'm becoming more doubtful now I've typed it all out, but you never know]


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