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Re: Thomas PROBERT
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 March 12 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Kate,
A good deal of information is available regarding CHARLES CLARENCE PITT.
When you say you have not established a connection does that mean you have searched the man's details?

I am sure many here will provide his parentage, death, E R information and his daughter's birth and marriage, but it would not be a real help to you if you already held these details.

It strikes me as interesting that in 1922 the couple Charles Clarence and Agnes PITT and the couple Thomas and Emily PROBERT lived in the same street, possibly the same residence.

Sue
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Re: Thomas PROBERT
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 03 March 12 15:23 GMT (UK) »
Merlin - thank you for solving the mystery of Gwendoline.  I had only found Thomas's children John ('98), Thomas ('02), Margaret ('04) and Emily ('05), and I knew John and Margaret died in infancy.  I had no idea he had eleven! Makes it all the more strange that only Thomas seems to have inherited anything. Is there a site online where I can find the other children?

Sparrett - Sue, thank you for the info on Charles Pitt.  I know very little about him - I had established that he was a bicycle repairer and that he wasn't a son-in-law.  Maybe he inherited because he was just a good neighbour! (btw,what does "NOK" mean?)

Thank you both for your time. With Thomas having so many children, perhaps I have lots of distant cousins in Australia.

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Re: Thomas PROBERT
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 March 12 21:17 GMT (UK) »
(btw,what does "NOK" mean?)


Next of Kin.

If you read his War Service digitised record you will see his mother is his stated NOK.

His father died 31st October 1906 aged 37.

Sue
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Re: Thomas PROBERT
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 04 March 12 01:38 GMT (UK) »
Here is the headstone of one of Thomas Alfred Proberts sons.

Tasman Lewis Probert.

http://gravesoftas.dyndns.org/gravesoftas%20new/Cornelian%20Bay%20Live/Church%20Of%20England/Images/C%20Of%20E/JJ/4/Probert%20Tasman%20Lewis.jpg

Engagement notice for Tasman which proves he is a son of Thomas Alfred Probert.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/25485739?

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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales.  FREEMAN -England?
MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales.
ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England .Convict. FRAZER- England.Convict.
DEAL -Ireland .Convict.
KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England.Convict.
BLACKBERRY -Whitechapel .Convict. CONDON -alias
DUFFY-Brighton England. Convict.
BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England. Convict.
JONES England????[George]Convict.
ROSE-England. Convict.
All came to Tas


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Re: Thomas PROBERT
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 March 12 01:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kate,

I finally checked out where 28 Charles Street is in Moonah Tasmania and have found the the house is now demolished and units have taken its place.Funny thing is though I have also realised that this house many years ago also had an old barn at the back which was removed and placed in my husbands aunties paddock just down the road from where I live.My husband help remove it from 28 Charles Street to his aunts property about 20 years ago. ;D

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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales.  FREEMAN -England?
MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales.
ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England .Convict. FRAZER- England.Convict.
DEAL -Ireland .Convict.
KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England.Convict.
BLACKBERRY -Whitechapel .Convict. CONDON -alias
DUFFY-Brighton England. Convict.
BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England. Convict.
JONES England????[George]Convict.
ROSE-England. Convict.
All came to Tas

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Re: Thomas PROBERT
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 04 March 12 03:39 GMT (UK) »
 Also, when Thomas Alfred Probert died in 1940 his estate was divided equally between his son Thomas Daymon Probert and Charles Clarence Pitt, but I can find no relationship between Proberts and Pitts.  Who was he?


Kate,
I feel I must point out an apparent error in your interpretation here which should be clarified.

The link to the legal advertisment regarding the estate.

I would say he was simply a trusted family friend of the family.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/25825511?searchTerm="thomas alfred probert"&searchLimits=

Fully quoted here for clarity----

"NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof application will be made to the Supreme Court of Tasmania in its Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction that Letters of Administration of the estate of THOMAS ALFRED PROBERT late of Moonah in Tasmania Retired Federal Ser- vant deceased intestate may be granted to THOMAS DAYMON PROBERT of Gladstone in Tasmania Labourer a son of the said deceased and CHARLES CLARENCE PITT of Moonah aforesaid Mechanic who have been appointed by the persons entitled to the estate of the said deceased to |
so apply.
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INTESTATE means he did not leave a will.

The meaning is that THOMAS PROBERT and CHARLES C PITT were appointed by those entitled to the Estate to make application for letters of Administration.

It does not say these two were the sole beneficiaries at all.

Sue
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Re: Thomas PROBERT
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 15:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again to you all for your help -I now know of six of the eleven children born to Thomas and Emily; only 5 to find!
I knew Thomas had died without a will, I just misinterpreted the document I had found; thanks for clarifying that.

Kate

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Births:

John Thomas 1898-22-11
Thomas Daymon 1902-08-26
Margaret Alice 1904-01-05
Emily Annie 1905-03-11
Lonsdale James 1907-03-13
Tasman Lewis 1908-08-21
Evelyn Ellen 1911-09-29
Gwendoline Maude 1912-11-27
Etheline Phyllis 1914-07-20
Neah Eleanor 1917-03-29
Marjorie Myra 1919-03-03

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Re: Thomas PROBERT
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to Merlin for filling in the gaps.  Must be lots of cousins out there somewhere!!

Kate