Wall-Alberry. COMPLETED

[Lucy2]

Oooh  ... you were quick with that reply.      [I'd just had to race off to try and unblock a drain ... bleedin' thing !]

Well looking at that info, I think I would be plumping for

RUNDLE.   


*    Was the first husband, John RYAN, able to read and write (or did he also sign "his X mark")  ?

~   Lu
 

[pinkie6]

hehe have been doing this a long time hence the quick reply had to get all the paperwork out! damn drains, know what u mean, anyway on the marriage cert of john ryan and emily they both have made their mark as X, so john ryan couldn't write either!.

[pinkie6]

i have thought maybe emily was an illigitimate daughter of richard rundle? as richard and his wife ann nee veale had all their children accounted for and an extensive history has been published on his family, i think richard had another brother come out but from all the tree i was given there is no one matching up to be emily.

[Lucy2]

Hi pixie

Ah ha,  .... was rather hoping John RYAN was one who could read and write.       Drat.

The thing is though, here you have a very young girl (Emma), who didn't have permission from a near relative (or anybody else) to marry  ... all alone (apparently), ....  in New Plymouth.

I don't know much about the wars (or soldiers) in the 'Naki area, in those very early years, but I do wonder if Emma might have arrived in NZ as a family member of a soldier perhaps ?

Someone must have known her, known her name and how to spell it ?  

~   Lu
 

 

[Lucy2]

i have thought maybe emily was an illigitimate daughter of richard rundle? as richard and his wife ann nee veale had all their children accounted for and an extensive history has been published on his family, i think richard had another brother come out but from all the tree i was given there is no one matching up to be emily.

I haven't looked too closely at Richard RUNDLE's background, except that his obituary painted him as a fine upstanding character who'd had an education.   [I'd doubted if Emma had been of that RUNDLE branch - because unless she'd been abandoned by them, then she too would probably have had an education of sorts.]

Hmmm.     Still lots to ponder.   

[pinkie6]

I haven't yet seen any other rundles with her in their tree for nz, with the rundles being in new plymouth the same time as her one can imagine all sorts of scenarios eh!

[pinkie6]

hi lucy2, was wondering if you had pondered over this since last time?

[spades]

Hi pinkie6,

I'm answering in the hope that Lucy2 will read it and respond to you.

spades

[pinkie6]

thanx ;p