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Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« on: Tuesday 16 February 10 18:24 GMT (UK) »
I have reached a brick wall in my research. Unfortunately my surname is very common. I am researching the "Wright" family history.

I started well and have traced back to the marriage of Robert Wright and Hannah Marshall at Holy Trinity, Hull 27 Dec. 1846. They were both of full age. Robert was a cordwainer and his father was George Wright, a labourer.

I believe Robert died about 1855 as his widow remarried Richard Thompson 1859.
On 1861 census there is Hannah & Richard Thompson and Richard's stepchildren Richard, Thomas and Mary Wright.

There is a family in 1851 census giving Robert Wright (cordwainer) b Atwick but he appears again in 1861 census so this would rule him out for me.

Sorry for the long ramble, but can anyone help or point me in the right direction.
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Re: Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi

So are you asking if we can find the family on the 1851 census?

If so - can you post details of the birthyears and birthplaces for the 3 Wright children you found on the 1861 census

You have posted on the Common Room board so no clues as to whereabouts the Thompson's were living in 1861 - was it Yorkshire or elsewhere
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Re: Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi

This is where my curiosity kicks in - how do you know that it was the same Hannah (nee Marshall) who married Richard Thompson?

The Robert Wright aged 37 on the 1861 who was a shoemaker was b Atwick and wife was Hannah aged 35 b Newland - dtr Emma aged 12 b Hessle

In 1851 they have a 2yr old dtr Emma

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Robert was a cordwainer and his father was George Wright, a labourer.


Per IGI

ROBERT WRIGHT   Christening:  23 APR 1823   Atwick, Yorkshire   
Father  GEORGE WRIGHT    Mother:  HANNAH 


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Re: Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 February 10 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carole
thanks for your reply. In 1861 census RG9/3575 folio 103 page22, Richard Wright is 14, Thomas Wright is 8 and Mary Wright is 6 all born Hull, Yorkshire.

Hannah Thompson is 36 also born Hull. Have been unable to find her (as Hannah Wright) and Richard with Robert Wright in 1851 census.

In Sept quarter 1859 found a marriage for Hannah Wright and Richard Thompson (Sculcoates 9d 218) Sculcoates is a parish of Hull.
Since Hannah's youngest child, Mary is 6 in 1861 I suppose Robert died between 1855 and 1859.

I believe the Robert Wright born Atwick was still alive and kicking in 1861 census


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Re: Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 February 10 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I just wondered if you were researching the right Hannah.  The 1846 marriage cert shows Robert as a cordwainer (shoe maker) and his father as George

The 1851 and 1861 census for Robert  & Hannah Wright shows him as a cordwainer and b Atwick.  No other Robert Wright with a wife Hannah with that occupation in 1851

The IGI entry shows Robert's father was George

So all of the above details match the profile you gave

Are you descended from one of the 3 Wright children?  If so - do you have a copy of one of their birth certs showing Hannah's maiden name was Marshall

The 1859 marriage cert for Hannah & Richard Thompson - does that show her fathers surname as Marshall?  YorkshireBMD shows the marriage was at All Saints Sculcoates so it can be looked up at the records office in the parish registers to get that info
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Re: Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 February 10 00:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Carole - will try to get to the records office and check out the 1859 marriage in the Parish Records. Still wondering where Richard Wright aged 4 was in 1851 census.

On Thomas' marriage record 1879, his father Robert is deceased but his occupation isn't cordwainer - it's hard to read but looks like possibly "dairyman" Does seem a drastic change of occupation.

Also have not found Thomas in1871 census when he would be about 17.

My grandfather was Robert Arthur Wright b1884 Hull
His father was Thomas Wright b1852/53 Hull
His father was Robert Wright dob unknown
His father was George Wright

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Re: Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 February 10 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Do you actually have the Birth Cert of Thomas showing his Mother as Hannah Marshall??


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Re: Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 February 10 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have a feeling that you have the wrong  census entries.  My mother was a Wright so I know how careful you have to be when researching that surname

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Re: Brick wall Robert Wright & Hannah Marshll
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 February 10 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

There is a marriage between Robert Wright (father is Thomas Wright) and Hannah Johnson at the Holy Trinity Church, Hull on 2 Dec 1850.

This would have made Richard born c 1847 either illegitimate or to another husband.

Have mentioned this marriage as personally I do not think the 1846 is yours! Have searched and searched the 1851 census but to no avail.  As already mentioned it would help if you find out Hannah's fathers name from the 1859 marriage.

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