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Re: LUGSDEN/LUGSDIN of Little Staughton
« Reply #81 on: Monday 14 March 11 14:23 GMT (UK) »
I keep coming back to the Lugsdens when I'm running short of other names to research!

I'm still not convinced about Robert Thorns Lugsden. I've no doubt that he was Robert Thorns Lugsden son of William and Sarah (Thorns) Lugsden. There are too many references to him in wills and other documents for there to be any possibility that they're all errors of Thorns for Thomas.

What is nagging at me is the birth record in Lt Staughton Baptist Church of Robert Lugsden on 18 Sept 1806 son of William and MARY, after William and Mary had recorded the births of three other children. They married in Henlow and their eldest son George always put Henlow as his place of birth, the second child Mary gave Pertenhall as her place of birth in 1851, and the third, William, born 1805 also gave Pertenhall. In 1803 the family appeared in the Muster list in Pertenhall. Robert Thorns always gave Lt Staughton as his place of birth, thus differentiating him from William and Mary.

What has been assumed is that the Baptist Church book is in error and the parents should be William and Sarah, who also appear to be dissenters. But equally the register could be correct and this Richard was among the numerous Lugsdens in Lt Staughton/Pertenhall for whom no burials can be traced.

Which would leave Robert Thorns Lugsden with no birth/baptism record

Not a question, but sometimes it helps to write it down to help clear my head!

David
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Re: LUGSDEN/LUGSDIN of Little Staughton
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 03 April 12 23:55 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

Some information for your Lugsden/Lugsdin tree:

#007530-00 (Hastings Co): Walter Edwin LUGSDIN, 32, accountant, Toronto, same, s/o William L. LUGSDIN & Elizabeth EMERY, married Flora Fanny GREEN, 24, England, Belleville, d/o John GREEN & Susan KENT, witn: G. Arthur ROBERTS & Clara P. LUGSDIN, both of Toronto, 19 June 1900 at Belleville

From here: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/hast00.htm

I was looking for information on Clara and a google search turned this up. I saw on your tree you didn't have a surname for Flora or definite marriage date, so thought this might be handy.

Crista
Sumner, Warwickshire

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Re: LUGSDEN/LUGSDIN of Little Staughton
« Reply #83 on: Wednesday 04 April 12 04:51 BST (UK) »
I keep coming back to the Lugsdens when I'm running short of other names to research!

I'm still not convinced about Robert Thorns Lugsden. I've no doubt that he was Robert Thorns Lugsden son of William and Sarah (Thorns) Lugsden. There are too many references to him in wills and other documents for there to be any possibility that they're all errors of Thorns for Thomas.

What is nagging at me is the birth record in Lt Staughton Baptist Church of Robert Lugsden on 18 Sept 1806 son of William and MARY, after William and Mary had recorded the births of three other children. They married in Henlow and their eldest son George always put Henlow as his place of birth, the second child Mary gave Pertenhall as her place of birth in 1851, and the third, William, born 1805 also gave Pertenhall. In 1803 the family appeared in the Muster list in Pertenhall. Robert Thorns always gave Lt Staughton as his place of birth, thus differentiating him from William and Mary.

What has been assumed is that the Baptist Church book is in error and the parents should be William and Sarah, who also appear to be dissenters. But equally the register could be correct and this Richard was among the numerous Lugsdens in Lt Staughton/Pertenhall for whom no burials can be traced.

Which would leave Robert Thorns Lugsden with no birth/baptism record

Not a question, but sometimes it helps to write it down to help clear my head!

David

So is it the same William that married both Mary and Sarah? Did Robert Thomas die? It just seems odd that if the same William is father to both Robert Thomas and Robert Thorns, he would have 2 sons with the same first name.
Also, I saw today on IGI Sarah's name written as Sarah Thomas in a marriage record. Below it was another one for Sarah Thorns.  The marriage dates were a day apart, but obviously to the same spouse. The Lugsdin branch of my tree confuses me, I wish I'd just stopped with my Ell ancestors...
Sumner, Warwickshire