LUGSDEN/LUGSDIN of Little Staughton

[johnP-bedford]

The 1861 census William Lugsden of Comauth; is verified later in 1871 as being born Colmworth 1798; although in 1851 it says he was born Eaton Bray 1797. Details of him wife Martha & children are found on 1841 at Eaton Bray.

Suspect he is the William Lugsden who married Martha Smith at Eaton Bray on 28/10/1823, I'd just like to check the marriage entry to see where he's from & the names of witnesses.

So is he the son of James Lugsden & Mary Dobey at Colmworth (whose brother William married Mary Sumpter) & if so where is his baptism?

Just to add to the confusion

John 

[bedfordshire boy]

Morning John, insomnia?

No, I think he's the son of John Lugsden, baptised 1774 aged 4, son of William and Mary (Sumpter) Lugsden. This John age 33 was living in Colmworth in the 1803 Muster List with 4 children under 10, but none of them were baptised, at least not in the established church. I'm trying to piece them together at the moment.

There's also a George Lugsden 64 in Kimbolton in 1861 born in Henlow. Where he sprung from I've no idea! Not baptised, inevitably. Perhaps he's the George born 1797 at Pertenhall who you found in a non conformist register. Possibly his parents stayed on in Henlow for a few months after their marriage. Can't find him in 1841/51

I don't think I've seen a family where so few were baptised.

David

[johnP-bedford]

Is this John Lugsden the one who married Ann Lugsden by licence on 8/4/1794 at Little Staugton. Surety by Thomas Flanders  - who then married Mary Lugsden, daughter of James on 15/3/1784 at LS. So was the Ann another daughter James Lugsden & Mary Dobey. ?

[bedfordshire boy]

Yes, that's the marriage, and yes, I think your supposition about Ann is correct. I'm assuming that John and Ann were cousins, purely on the basis that there seems to have been only two Lugsden families in Lt Staughton at that time

With no baptisms it's a case of having to reconstruct the families on a "what's the most likely" scenario

David

[bedfordshire boy]

John, the NBI has very few Lugsden burials after 1800, yet there should be loads of them. The BLARS extracts that you found refer to Louisa's grandfather William as having been buried at the Dissenter burial ground in Lt Staughton.

Any chance that the next time you're in the Archives you could see if they have a register for these burials? Might shed some light on the Sabeys too. These burials appear to be on the NBI but only up to 1796, plus 1806.

David                           

[johnP-bedford]

1851 has George Lugsden, unmarried aged 30 born Henlow; journeyman Baker living in Great Staughton with Alfred Powers a Baker from Blunham - mistranscribed as Leysden

HO107/1750 Folio 466, Page 23

[bedfordshire boy]

Good find!

It's a rotten figure, but I think it's 50 not 30 (I've just noticed that for once I agree with Ancestry!)

[lugsdin]

John, was there any mention of Sabeys in the book?

I have this book - no mention of Sabeys in it.

Would be interested to know if any grave transcriptions were done before the LS Meeting House was demolished to make way for the airfield in June 1944 - the absence of burials in LS after those at All Saints LS cease in 1767, points to burials at the LS Meeting House given the establishment of the LS Meeting House in 1766.

[johnP-bedford]

Per family letters, Robert Thorn(e) Lugsdin died in Little Staughton when his son William was a boy. William was taken from a solicitor's office and apprenticed to a tailor as a boy. Robert's wife was indeed Sarah Grey/Gray.

Graham;  When did Robert Lugsdin & wife Sarah die. As I have them on 1861 census as farmer in Little Staughton, Robert 54 & Sarah 57. (OK I have now updated Ancestry with the correct name). Also I have death index for Robert Lugsdin in Sept 1861 & Sarah Lugsden in Dec 1866 age 62, both in St Neots RD. In 1861 son William age 14 was apprenticed as tailor in Eaton Socon.

Your story (well to me) suggested that William was apprenticed after father Robert had died & he was a young boy rather than a growing lad.

Cheers John