LUGSDEN/LUGSDIN of Little Staughton

[bedfordshire boy]

Both Graveley marriages are on the PR transcript so are OK. William Lugsdin was of Lt Staughton. Both John Ell and Elizabeth Sumpter were otp

I'll have a look at the Henlow angle a bit later.

David

[lugsdin]

William Lugsdin m Mary Sumpter

Son William m Mary Ell
Son James m Editha Howard

William Lugsdin (who m Mary Sumpter) had a brother James m Mary Dobey
Son William m1 Elizabeth Ell, m2 Sarah Thorns

[bedfordshire boy]

I thought who the 'ell are the Ells & how are they linking to Lugsden

I think Henlow may be a red herring, as whilst John & Elizabeth Ell lived there they were the first Ells in Henlow. John may have been baptised in Graveley in 1731 - but this John may have married Eleanor in 1755 in Graveley, amd I can't find a burial for her. Still working on them

[bedfordshire boy]

Also found a book in library about the Little Staughton Meeting House by H G Tibbutt, published in 1951 & it states that eight persons joined together on 10 June 1766 to set up the baptist church in Little Staughton, which included William Lugsden, Mary Lugsden, Ann Lugsden. Later James Lugsden joined the congregation, & William with James & William Peppercorn established the church.
        

John, was there any mention of Sabeys in the book?

[johnP-bedford]

John, was there any mention of Sabeys in the book?

David, I can't say if it was or not.... I only sight-scanned the pages & was just pleased to see Lugsden name appearing.  I can recheck at the weekend if I go into town. 

[johnP-bedford]

more marriage licences noted yesterday....

31/09/1172 Ann Lugsden of LS age 23 to marry Thomas Brawne, farmer of Raunds, Northants.
Surety by William Hall, cordwainer of Bedford

09/02/1785 Ann Lugsden, daughter of William of LS, minor to marry William Wiles, farmer of Eaton Socon.
Surety by William Lugsden, farmer of LS

13/03/1784 James Lugsdin of LS stood sutety for Thomas Flanders, carpenter of LS & Mary Lugddin, daughter of James, minor

23/04/1784 James Lugsden of LS stood surety for William Cumberland, farmer of Bolnhurst & Mary Goddard of Bolnhurst, age 21+

05/04/1794 Ann Lugsdin of Little Staughton to marry John Lugsdin farmer of LS.
Surety stood by Thomas Flanders, victually of LS
Married at LS on 08/04/1794 at LS

15/03/1796 Jemima Lugsdin of LD, 21+ to marry Benjamin Lee, son of Thomas, of Colmworth, minor. Surety by Thomas Lee, yeoman of Over, Cambs & William Lugsden, farmer of LS.
Married 21/03/1796 at LS

Note Jemima daughter of William & Mary Lugsden baptised at 1 month old at LS on 13/03/1774 along with siblings, Ann age 7,  John age 4 & William age 2

cheers John

[bedfordshire boy]

Just reread the Will of James married to Margaret. In it it lists the beneficiaries as DB and DS with Robert T as a DB (descendent of a brother). So that removes James and Margaret from the equation.

So are you saying Graham that James and Margaret are a complete red herring and are nothing to do with the North Beds Lugsdens? They appear to have married in 1852 in Westminster.

[johnP-bedford]

While we're discussing links to others - are the Lugsdens from North Beds linked to the lot from way down south at Eaton Bray ?  A GrU contact's tree I've been looking at suggests there is.

John

It's been snowing here all afternoon - the traffic outside my window is building up...

[bedfordshire boy]

You must be psychic John. I was just putting a message together on Word.

Part of it (the rest will follow later) reads "Additional confusions are marriages in Eaton Socon and Eaton Bray, opposite ends of Beds. The Eaton Bray William Lugsden aged 62 in 1861 gives his birthplace as Comauth, Beds, which is probably Colmworth, which is where James Lugsden married Mary Dobey"

The only Lugsden entry in Colmworth is the 1760 marriage. Must check the Muster list*

This thread is too confusing. I can't what work out what is fact and what's been deleted

I've gone back to the drawing board

David

Staying in tonight. The others had a Chinese last night and three shops in Carcassonne haven't opened today! So no-one's going out to play tonight.

*Might be getting somewhere. Colmworth 1803 John Lugsden farmer, age 33, 4 children under 10 (one of whom I'm confident moved to Eaton Bray). John may have been the son of William and Mary (Sumpter) baptised in 1774 aged 4