LUGSDEN/LUGSDIN of Little Staughton

[johnP-bedford]

Interesting...Found in the Methodist baptisms - St Neots circuit register

Albert Thomas Lugsdin, parents William & Elizabeth Lugsden of St Neots
baptised 31/1/1868 born 11/1/1868

Rosa Anne Thorns Lugsdin, parents William & Eilzabeth of Potton
baptised 25/12/1869 born 15/7/1869

Perhaps it is Thorns & when being transcribed if its male then it must be Thomas

[bedfordshire boy]

Albert is on the GRO index as Thorns

[bedfordshire boy]

 William who married Ell 22 feb 1796 (father James Lugsdin , mother Marey Dobey) did infact remarry, but to Sarah Thorns of Eaton Socon on 12 Jul 1802.

Looking at one of the BLARS documents that John found (ref   BD1171/1-5  ) the marriage date is given as 13 July 1802, with the 12th being the date of the licence if the member submission on the IGI is to be believed.

You've obviously seen the entry Graham, if you've compared signatures. Can you confirm whether the marriage date is the 12th or 13th?

David (I have the same Boaz Sabey in my tree)

[johnP-bedford]

David (I have the same Boaz Sabey in my tree)

So.....  I expect that means we're related somehow !

Anyway marriage licences

2/7/1802 William Lugsden of LS, farmer, widower to marry Sarah Thorns of Eaton Socon; surety given by Francis Hobson, miller of Eaton Socon. Marriage 13/7/1802

9/1/1813 James Lugsden of Little Staughton, widower to Editha Howard of LS
marriage at LS on 22/1/1813 witnesses William Ladds & Rhoda Ell

2/7/1831 Ladds William Lugsdin of Riseley to Pricilla Worth Swannell of LS, with consent of acting trustee, S Knight & mother Pricilla Knight
marriage at LS 6/7/1831 witnesses Mary Swannell, George Wells & James Ebenezer? Swannell

18/4/1843 James Lugsdin of Riseley to Mary Stonebanks of Sharnbrook
marriage at Sharnbrook 18/4/1843 his father just says Lugsden

25/11/1843 Joseph Topham of Eaton Socon to Eliza Lugsden of Riseley
marriage at Riseley 28/11/1843 her father James Lugsden

[lugsdin]

Interesting...Found in the Methodist baptisms - St Neots circuit register

Albert Thomas Lugsdin, parents William & Elizabeth Lugsden of St Neots
baptised 31/1/1868 born 11/1/1868

Rosa Anne Thorns Lugsdin, parents William & Eilzabeth of Potton
baptised 25/12/1869 born 15/7/1869

Perhaps it is Thorns & when being transcribed if its male then it must be Thomas

Albert and Rosa were siblings to Montague William Lugsdin, Robert John Lugsdin and George Harry Lugsdin - children of William and grandchildren to Robert Thorns Lugsdin and Sarah Grey.

[lugsdin]

There are references to William, James & Robert Thorns Lugsdin on the Bedford Archive Website

http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html

tyoe in LUGSDEN & press <search> to get a list & then select on the names
 

In the reference to Robert Thorns Lugsdin it states Ref BD1167-1168 his father was William whose father was James whose father was James.

As we know, William remarried Sarah Thorns 13 Jul 1802. The only birth for a Robert is for Robert Williamson in the Little Staughton Baptist Register. Could Williamson mean William's son??.

Anyway Ref BD1171/1-5 cites the "Certificate of Birth of Robt. Lugsden, 18 Sept 1806, son of the above". Above is a reference to "Certificate of marr. of Wm. Lugsden of Lt. Staughton, widower & Sarah Thorns, 13 July 1802.

So there we have it and I am related to both of you!!!. Many thanks for your help

Graham

[johnP-bedford]

So Robert Thorms/Thomas Lugsden is son, born 18/9/1806, of William Lugsden & Sarah Thorns who married by licence at LS on 13 July 1802. William then was buied 1826.

We know William was a widower at this marriage,
......so who was his first wife, when did they marry, when did she die.

[lugsdin]

We know William was a widower at this marriage,
......so who was his first wife, when did they marry, when did she die.

First wife was Elizabeth Ell, b 21/2/1772, m 23/2/1796 Henlow, death unknown

Graham

[johnP-bedford]

I thought who the 'ell are the Ells & how are they linking to Lugsden

We have 2 marriage licences for Henlow
William Lugsdin to Mary Ell on 2/5/1796
William Lugsdin to Elizabeth Ell 22/2/1796
On both of these surety was given by John Ell, farmer of Henlow

On the marriage of James Lugsdin to Editha Howard in 1813, we have witness Rhoda Ell

Mary, Elizabeth & Rhoda are all children og John & Elizabeth Ell, baptised at Henlow, who also 7 other children baptised there between 1768 & 1783, including 2 James Sumpter Ell (in 1776 & 1777 so I assume first one died)

Found 3 member submissions on IGI for marriage of John Ell to Elizabeth Sumpter at Graveley, Cambs on 18/11/1760 (one member thinks Graveley is in Cumberland so they need a course in England's geography)

Where's this going --- a William Lugsden married Mary Sumpter at Graveley on 7/5/1764