Rathgar Road (then ) Co.Dublin

[Quaxer]

Can anybody give the exact locations of the following Terraces etc on the Rathgar Road. The dates given are those entered in The Irish Times newspaper

  Nos 1-16 Cambridge Terrace     (1859-1873)
  Nos.1-2 Malakhoff Terrace          (1863-1874)
  Nos1-7 Pearmount                      (1861-1877)               probably near No.113
   Nos1-4 Star Terrace                    (1864)

Should any reader walk this Road perhaps they could look for names carved into stonework/brickwork.
Please state the source of knowledge in your reply.

Regards          Quaxer

[shanew147]

some details from two directories to start off :

Summary extracted from Thom's 1848 for Rathgar Road.  Numbers were not used until later years, but the details might help establish a general layout of the sidestreets and terraces  :

from Rathmines southward

 A Crescent in progress of building, and a new line of avenue to Harolds Cross
 11 houses
   Cambridge ave intersects  (poss. associated with Cambs. Tce?)
 4 houses
    Garville Rd to Wynnefield parade intersects
 4 houses
   Salisbury terrace intersects
 10 houses
   Pearmount intersects..
 2 houses
   Elmgrove ave intersects
 2 houses

separate listing for 11 houses on Cambridge Ave
separate listing for 8 houses on Pearmount

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Thom's 1852

 listing for 11 houses on Cambridge Ave
 listing for 8 houses on Pearmount

also see below for a c1880 map showing Cambridge Terrace on Rathgar road, just south of the junction with Grosnover Rd.

The full map is available at : South County Dublin c1880


Shane

[Quaxer]

Shanew

Just a holding reply to say thank you for your interesting input. It will take me a day or so to digest your information.
You state that numbers were used later in the century after these terraces etc. were built but I have reason to think that Nos. were interchangeable with terrace Nos. and my objective is to match these when possible.


Regards        Quaxer

[shanew147]

I have seen cases where the street numbers and terrace numbers continue along a road e.g. 1,2,3,4, TceX 5,6,7,8 (st cont) 9,10,11...and also where the terraces have their own numbers, e.g. 1,2,3,4, Tce Y 1,2,3,4,5,6 (st cont) 5,6,7. I will have a look though further Thom's directories and let you know what I find.

If I'm passing through Rathgar at the weekend, I'll have a quick look and see if any of the old Terrace names remain.


Shane

[Quaxer]

Shanew
Many thanks again for your reply and interest.
Dealing with Cambridge Terrace alone for the moment, I have entries for Nos.1-10 and 16 . I assume that No.16 is an overshoot in that a neighbouring householder although not truly connected with the Terrace has chosen to make an artificial connection. I have seen this before on the South Circular Road near Portobello.
The map you displayed was most useful as it shows a laneway at the City end. This was called Cambridge Lane according to the map supplied with Thoms 1962/3 but there is no reference to that Lane in the main work. Could you ascertain the current street number of the house on the right side of that laneway. The laneway appears to be a reasonable fixed point to start with. Would it help if I supplied some names of occupiers for the Terrace and relevant dates?
Regards     Quaxer

[Quaxer]

Shanew

The map you displayed confirmed that Malakoff Terrace was on the same side as Cambridge T. but almost into Rathmines . My records show No.184 as Malakoff Villa and No.185 as Malakoff House. The use of the house names and the Terrace slightly overlapped in 1874. My only problem here is to determine which was No.1 and which was
No.2.
This is but another of many problems I have on this Road but please do not think that I wish to impose upon you.

Many Thanks

Quaxer

[corisande]

Since the thread is about Rathgar Road, my great-grand parents, Thomas and Maria Grant, lived at 24 Rathgar Road from about 1890 to 1920. Indeed the 1911 census gives them there.

On the off chance that it might bring me more info from readers of the thread 

Nice houses in the Rathgar Road !

[shanew147]

Most of the houses on Rathgar Rd are listed as protected structures so probably look much the same as they did in 1911. Some information for you on number 24. It is located on Rathgar Rd between the jct of Charlevlle Rd / Grosvnover Rd and the jct of Grosnover Rd West and  Leicester Ave

Thom's listing show the following at the address :

1927
 Thomas Grant

1914
 Thomas Grant
 Charles W. Grant

1894
  Major Nangle

In 1894 index there is a Thomas Grant listed with an address at 8 Fontenoy street if that's of any interest.


Shane

[corisande]

Shane

Thanks for that. I'll try to follow up the Fontenoy Street, ref. I had them there in 1889, and was not sure when they left

For what it is worth, a photo of 24 Rathgar Road I took last year

From hours of mindless wandering up and down the area, I have the perception that there are still some "Terrace" signs around today along the Rathgar Road, but afraid I cannot give any details