CASTLE Family

[Juliepen]

Hi Carolinesophia,

Yes, it is the same line, though I came down through Charles' brother, John William Castle.

Julie
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[carolinesophia]

Thank you Juliepen! 
Coming down Charles' line, I have Robert George Castle b. 1848 married Mary Ann Brown, their son George C Castle b. c 1877 married Florence Ethel Adams and left Hertford for Islington where daughter Ursula Winifred was born in 1914.   Would you llike any further details of this line? 

I would appreciate details of Joseph Castle's wife Susannah if you have them.  She must have been born about 1806.   Any details further back would be most welcome!

I don't have much to offer in return unless you are looking for any Australian connections (I am in New South Wales)
Regards
Carolinesophia

[KarenE]

My family hail from the  Baldock/Norton /Walkern area.  Several generations of John  Castle and they seemed to live in the Norton end area of town for quite a while

Do any researchers on here have info about Norton End and the kinds of folk who lived there?  My female relatives were straw plaiters and one of the  Johns (1826) was a victualler and agricultural labourer.  I find that odd - him having two jobs. Would he have brewed and sold from home or would he have worked in one of the breweries.

 I plan to visit the area later this year and wondered what became of the land. I'd like to be a bit prepared before  I arrive

I've got back to 1790s and wondered if anyone has come across this branch of the family in their reseach.
Thanks

[[Ray]]

Hi KarenE and WELCOME TO ROOTSCHAT 

HALS Online Names carries 2 items re a will (1824) of John Castle Maltmaker. (sounds really promising)

Norton - The Three Horse Shoes seems to have been run by the Chamberlain Family almost exclusively from 1790 thru to 1902
1790 - 1824 Clarke C     (Victuallers Recognizance on HALS)
1825 - 1828 Elizabeth C (Victuallers Recognizance on HALS)
1828 - 1840 ?
1841 - 1851 No Victuallers / Beerhouses listed in Norton
1861 - 1902 Various Chamberlain (Census / P.O.Dirs / Kellys)

It was quite a common sideline/2ndincome for people to run BeerHouses (as opposed to a "full" public house), brewing their own beer(s). Quite often the OH carrying out the brewing.

Regards

Ray

[KarenE]

Thanks Ray

That link will be something to check when I make my trip down to the archives. Im fairly new to all this . I was told that there was a contentious will somewhere way back - maybe on eof these.
K

[stevew101]

My family hail from the  Baldock/Norton /Walkern area.  Several generations of John  Castle and they seemed to live in the Norton end area of town for quite a while

Do any researchers on here have info about Norton End and the kinds of folk who lived there?  My female relatives were straw plaiters and one of the  Johns (1826) was a victualler and agricultural labourer.  I find that odd - him having two jobs. Would he have brewed and sold from home or would he have worked in one of the breweries.

"Norton End" is a name commonly seen in historical information on Baldock but is no longer in use, nor is their a modern name instead.  It was the poorest area in Baldock and was situated around the junction of Church Street and Norton Road as far as the Orange Tree Pub  In the nineteenth century, the majority of "Norton End", consisted of yards and courts of cottages hidden away behind the Church Street junction, but there was also an island of cottages in the middle of the junction of Norton Road with the road to Norton Village.  The present Church Street was originaly called Well Street.  By 1700 it was being called Norton Street and by 1897 the south end towards Norton End was called Church Street  The whole road followed in 1912  The present Norton Road was originaly called Back Lane.  By 1906 it had been renamed Cemetary Road and by 1930 it was being called Norton Road.

Baldock had a number of Breweries.  Steeds Brewery which later became the Baldock Pale Ale Brewery was located in Norton End, and John may well have worked there.

My great grandmother - Sarah Gentle(Nee Howard) was a strawplaiter living at Norton End.  I can trace her back to Gregory and Elisabeth Castle (Nee Warner).  If anyone has any information about them, I would be very grateful.

[KarenE]

Thanks for your input Stevew.

What you say doesnt surprise me - the few pictures I have seen seem to suggest a poor area. I am guessing it must have been cleared sometime towards the end of the 19C

[stevew101]

My great grandmother moved into one of the new houses by 1902.  I think it was mainly cleared by 1930 when Cemetary Road was renamed Norton Road. 

I believe that there is still a road named Brewery Road after Steeds Brewery.

[sarah]

Hi Steve,

I am sorry to say that we have been unable to pass on your messages to Petercas because his email has since changed    Lets hope he comes across your posting when he is next googling the castle family from Baldock.

Regards

Sarah