Dating please!!! new photo added

[squiggle]

Hi All,

Could I ask for some help on dating this one please, I am still no good at dating the clothes.
Am I right in thinking the back looks 1870's. I think she is displaying a ring!

This is another one from the album and a date would really help with the possibility of finding her identity,

Thanks in anticipation

Becky

[Finley 1]

What is interesting is that it states   negatives kept.......
I wonder how long for .. and if maybe now even

Xin

[trellisick]

hi becky, i found your man trading no 10 albion street in 1870 there is no reference to how long he traded from this address, kali.

[trellisick]

by the way, dont bother looking in exmouth it is now a tattooist and an estate agents, kali.

[chinakay]

This is an odd one...the back of the card looks like late 1860s, but the outfit looks like early 1880s. I'd go with 1880s actually, as the rounded corners of the cardstock didn't come out till the mid/late 1870s. I did find another photo online taken by H Churchill at the same address that is very definitely late 1880s style clothing.

I wish I could see more of this lady's skirt...but from what I can see of her clothes it's not an 1870s dress.

Cheers,
China

[jim1]

Late 1870's back,so that's the start point.The 3/4 coat would indicate no bustle.Not much to see of her dress style but overall I would agree with China,1878-82.
A ring but not on her wedding finger so a single girl.

jim

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Hi All, Kali, Xin and Chinakay,

If only we could just call up and buy a copy in exchange for the details, I don't suppose the tatooist has all the files stashed in the back......noooooooo!

I hunted for Mr Churchill on the census and found one in 1871, he was a cordwainer but living next door to a photographer/artist called William Beer, photographer/artist,....... bell rings rush back to photo album....... I have a photo by W.Beer of Exmouth.

I will post this one as well,... this time I am really do think the back is 1870's. I am sure that these girls are part of the same family, so maybe a date for this one will help with identifying the first also.

I have tried to locate Mr Churchill in other censuses but without success and I have seen another of his photos,on the web,.... same address but different back, so he must have been trading for a while,

Chinakay if the first photo could possibly be  as early as 1878, it could be an engagement photo of Henrietta Horswill.  

By the way I checked to make sure that I had posted the right back and I did, so the odd back and front is very strange

[mystifier]

A ring but not on her wedding finger so a single girl.

I am generally impressed with your dating Jim; but this looks like a wedding finger to me so I am interested in your comment ?!

It is fairly common these days, to see all manner of material, even buildings that have a retro style for artistic effect - so it has always been.

I am not an expert but this looks like an 1880s photo deliberately styled as a much earlier one.

Kevin

[chinakay]

Chinakay if the first photo could possibly be  as early as 1878, it could be an engagement photo of Henrietta Horswill.  

Actually in your timeframe the engagement ring was worn on the right hand:

"The proposition being made and accepted, a ring, called 'the engagement ring,' usually containing a single diamond, of the highest value to which the generosity and means of the giver are capable of attaining, is presented by
the successful suitor to his betrothed, who wears it ostentatiously on the ring-finger of her right hand."
from: "The Bazar Book of Decorum.
The care of the Person, Manners, Etiquette, and Ceremonials." 1873