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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 24 April 10 18:04 BST (UK) »
Imagine having it for 6 years? Thomas must have had a hard time. He is on the 1851 census as a labourer. Yet if he died in 1854 after 6 years would he have carried on working until he was not fit to work any more?
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NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 24 April 10 18:51 BST (UK) »
My wife's great grandfather who unfortunately for researchers was called John Smith was born in 1837 at Penistone South Yorks. He owned and worked a cattle farm at Clayton nr Doncaster. He contracted bovine tuberculosis from his cattle, and declined and died between 1865 and 1872. His demise caused this memorial to be placed in Clayton churchyard: "A pale consumption struck the final blow, the disease was fatal, but the end came slow" To be that sounds somewhat in the Victorian Gothick tradition!
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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 24 April 10 19:08 BST (UK) »
They probably escalated in the last 18 months or so before death, although it may depend. Some people may have been laid up for longer before dying. I await any further opinions of the process of TB as it is very interesting.

I did hear that medicines just smoothed the path to the grave.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 24 April 10 19:28 BST (UK) »
When I joined the railway industry in 1956 TB was still in the population, A mass X Ray unit came to the depot annually and X rayed the staff. There was usually at least one had TB out of a staff totalling 300 approx.
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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 24 April 10 20:16 BST (UK) »
TB was one of the biggest killers. It must have been hard for people who had it long term. I suppose the cold autumn of 1854 took its toll on Thomas and he died after 6 years suffering.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 24 April 10 20:19 BST (UK) »
My mother's father died of TB in his 40's in 1925.  I have the letters he wrote, in pencil, from the sanitorium they sent him to, promising my grandmother that he would be a better man to her when he got home (he was one of those fellows who spent all his wages down the pub, I think)

He did come home.  But died soon afterwards.

They are very poignant letters, as you will imagine
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 24 April 10 20:23 BST (UK) »
My great grandmother died in 1953 and one of the causes was a tubercular kidney.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 25 April 10 08:22 BST (UK) »
Wasn't TB called the white death in the north of England in the mid 19th C?

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Re: decline as cause of death in 1841?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 25 April 10 09:05 BST (UK) »
The book "The White Death: A History of Tuberculosis" by Thomas Dormandy is available

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