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[shanew147]

the reason I was wondering was that I would think that any misinterpretation would depend on how these details were originally obtained and passed down.

i.e. if these placenames were passed down as a verbal family story, then probably the words should be interpreted phonetically, rather than as a misinterpretation of handwriting, in which case Lunerwith does not sound much like Limerick..

Have you seen the original notes ?


Shane

[lesB]

Shane

Yes, I have seen the original notes which are quite clear, although I do agree with you that it must be Limerick.

I have wondered if you or anyone else reading this would know if the Crockfords Clerical Directory covering the Church of Ireland/England is an historical account of the previous years say as far back as the mid to late 1700's, or does it cover just the year it may have been printed. 

I will probably or should start a new topic on this if I can't find an answer here.

Les

[Quaxer]

Les

Regret I cannot recall what year Crockfords started but it certainly does record brief biographical details of living clergy. It is not unlikely that there were other directories before Crockfords and maybe the Librarian at Lambeth Palace London could help you further.



Regards       Quaxer

[shanew147]

I have wondered if you or anyone else reading this would know if the Crockfords Clerical Directory covering the Church of Ireland/England is an historical account of the previous years say as far back as the mid to late 1700's, or does it cover just the year it may have been printed. ..

According to Crockford's website (http://www.crockford.org.uk/), the first edition was published in 1858...you can view a scanned version (in various formats) of the first edition online at : Crockford's - 1858 at archive.org

I found a reference to Ballybrood and the name Benson in a Topographical Directory of 1810 by a Nicholas Carlisle.  (search for Benson ballybrood on google books) Extract below :

ISERT LAURENCE, in the Barony of Clanwilliam, Co. of Limerick.... a Rectory and Vicarage endowed ....united ..to the rectories and vicarages of Ballybrood, Listeely and Rathjordan... The Rev. William Benson, the Precentor (in1806) who has cure of souls, and resident. ..  Diocese of Emly..it is 6m S.E. from Limerick

see : link to page

See details on Ballybrood in Lewis Topographical Directory of 1837

note: in some of the older books on google, the place name is written as two words - i.e. "Bally Brood"


Shane

[lesB]

Thank you Quaxer and Shane for your efforts.

Shane, It wouldn't surprise me that you may have found the elusive Rev'd William Benson, certainly the first reference to him that I have seen.

A little later than I had first thought but certainly a possibility. I will need to follow it up from the sources you mentioned. Well done!

Quaxer, you mentioned "the Librarian at Lambeth Palace, London" may be able to help. Excuse my ignorance but was there any special reason for suggesting this source of enquiry.

Les

[Quaxer]

LesB

Yes,it is probably the Central Library of the Church of England.



Regards     Quaxer

[shanew147]

there's a link to a database mentioned on the Occupation's board that might be of interest.

Clergy of Church of England Database
   http://eagle.cch.kcl.ac.uk:8080/cce/

not certain what the coverage of this is, but seems to include some early records...



Shane

[lesB]

Thank you Shane and Quaxer

Shane, you have certainly given me hope that I will eventually find details on the Rev'd Benson. The site you mentioned seems to deal with the Church in England. There are a few Bensons, so I will look in my notes as I believe they were represented in the Clergy of England and Ireland.

Quaxer, If I can't find info on the net a written approach to Lambeth Palace may be my next move.

Les

[cgpigott]

Hello,
I am a new member of this site, and am interested in the family of Harvey WELMAN, Officer in the 57th Regiment of Foot, and in particular by his first wife Abigail PIGOTT of Dublin. They were married in St Andrew's (C.of I.), Dublin, 26 Jul 1806, she being the eldest daughter of Robert PIGOTT (ca 1759-1829), retired Inspector-General of Excise.
Harvey & Abigail's first child, Margaret WELMAN, was born at Wexford, 10 Dec 1807 (she is the one who married William Welborne H. BENSON (a son of Archdeacon William BENSON of Ballybrood & Emly, Co Limerick); their other issue were John Cameron WELMAN, b Warrington, Cheshire, 6 Jan 1810; Mary WELMAN, b Gibraltar, 24 Feb 1812; Harvey Wellesley Pole WELMAN, b Wexford, 10 Jun 1814; Abigail WELMAN, b Dublin, 13 Mar 1818; & Hercules WELMAN, b Enniscorthy, Co Wexford, 25 Apr 1819.
Abigail died 10 Oct 1824, probably in Ireland, & Harvey marr 2ndly, at St Mark's (C.of I.), Dublin, 16 Dec 1825, to Mary COLLINS. They had a further 6 children in Kent & then in Sydney; Harvey completed several tours of duty with his Regiment in India, and retired back to Launceston in 1842. He died there in 1869. His widow appears to have returned to England, & died at Gosport, Hants, in 1876.
I have posted some details of this family on my blog at www.pigott-gorrie.blogspot.com in the earliest posting under "Captain John PIGOTT of Stradbally &c."
Regards,
Chris PIGOTT, Potts Point, N.S.W.