Robert Dunlop Howard

[hjdolby]

Hi all. I am new to this and have found a thread about Ferruccio Grossi (misspelled Ferruciggo G Grosoi). My uncle, Philip (GrossiPhil) posted in 2012 asking for details, and someone kindly found the obituary for Ferruccio along with details of his time spent in Cork as a professor of music.
My uncle sadly died and I have limited information regarding what was found. If anyone can help, I’d be most grateful. I am trying to confirm that Ferruccio was born to Arturo and Giuseppina Grossi. I am looking into the Italian side of my family, and my great grandfather (Gualtiero) was brother to Ferruccio. I cannot seem to find anything on the civil searches. Thanks.

[heywood]

Welcome to Rootschat. As you can see these messages are quite old now. I have skimmed through them and hope that you have got what information has been accessed.
Here they are in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Cork_No__6_Urban/South_Mall/394330/

I think there is mention somewhere of his wife. If you look at the Household Form A , it shows they have been married 14 yrs and Marie has given birth to two children, one is living.

This site has civil records. https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
You need to sign in but is free.
Here is thecdeath of 6 year old Elsa in Cork - presumably the deceased child from the census.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rg9/

There is a death for Mitzi Grossi, 72 yrs, 1947 in Dublin.

[heywood]

Here is Mitzi’s death - Leeson Park address
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1947/04580/4211176.pdf

And the death of ‘Ferruciggo Grosoi’ same address but described as a bachelor.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1955/04437/4159818.pdf

[hjdolby]

Thank you for this. I am getting confused as in some records Ferruccio has a middle name and in others he doesn’t, plus his wife is called Marie but referred to on the death certificate as Mitzi. Seems weird. I’m actually more interested in his brother but he did not move to Ireland. I am unsure in Ferruccio is actually related or whether my uncle made an error. Very difficult to find out who his parents were as he was born in Egypt, but the other children were born in Italy.
Thanks for the links. I’ll keep digging.

[heywood]

In this book https://celt.ucc.ie/AloysFleischmannMusicIreland2013.pdf - page 269 (the actual page not the download page) it mentions Signor Ferruccio Grossi of Milan.

There is an index at the back - he us mentioned briefly but only in musical connections on pages 173, 187, 257 and 269/70.
There is one reference with him to Madame Grossi.

I would think that perhaps Mitzi is a pet name or Marie is an anglicised version.