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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 03 March 10 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Well done Mary  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday 04 March 10 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Shane, Thank you for your information about brother of my great grandmother, mr Ferrucio Grossi. Is fantastic discover the anonymous past of my family!!How i can try other information about his life and his discendent? When and where he dead? where lived his family and his son..? From Italy is very difficult try this informations..

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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 04 March 10 08:54 GMT (UK) »
Shane, Thank you for your information about brother of my great grandmother, mr Ferrucio Grossi. Is fantastic discover the anonymous past of my family!!How i can try other information about his life and his discendent? When and where he dead? where lived his family and his son..? From Italy is very difficult try this informations..

Ferruccio and his family seem to arrived in Ireland around 1907, to take up his new position as professor of Violin in the School of Music. His address on the 1911 census shows that he lived in Cork City at South mall which is in the centre of the city and a short walk from the school of music. Of his time before that it seems that he may have travelled quite a bit - he was born in Egypt, his wife was born in Austria and Oscar, their son, was born in Sweden in about 1898.

Some newspaper articles I saw recently described recitals he staged around Cork city and county where he would perform violin pieces and was accompanied by his wife on the piano.

I dont see very many Grossi records on the Irish Civil Index, which is an index of Irish Births marriages and Deaths. The earliest record I see is a possible death in the Cork area of young girl, who could be a daughter to Ferruccio - Elsa Grossi in Cork in Apr/Jun 1905, age 6. If you wish to find out more about this you could order a death cert which may give some more information on this event.

I dont seen any sign of their son Oscar marrying or births for any more children to Ferruccio and Marie, or their deaths. There is a death in Dublin of of a Mitzi Grossi (age 72) in Dublin, 1947 - not sure if this is connected. There are a couple of Grossi listings (a marriage and a birth)on the index in the 1950s - but I will not post details of possible living people (you can search the index to see these).

I will have a further look and let you know I what I find..


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Re: Robert Dunlop Howard
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 04 March 10 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Shane, thank you so much for your information!!


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« Reply #31 on: Thursday 04 March 10 14:05 GMT (UK) »
no problem!

was Ferrucio's family originally from the Milan area ?




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« Reply #32 on: Friday 05 March 10 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi! my family dont' remember when Ferruccio leaved Italy. We know only that he was a musicist, that he married mrs. Mitzi and that one their son died very young. Now, i think that the son was Elsa Grossi, dead in 1905 in Cork. And the wife was Mitzi, dead in 1947 in Dublin. But in census 1911 his wife was Mary, not Mitzi. Is the same person? the birthday is the same, 1875. And Ferruccio and other son Oscar where lived? Where died? probably not in ireland..

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« Reply #33 on: Monday 08 March 10 20:13 GMT (UK) »
I have copies of Concert programmes from 1882,1879, & 1906 which I got from the helpful staff at the Cork City Library.

 By pure coincidence when I went to the library last week to look up RD Howard and incredibly a  concert programmes from 1882 was displayed in a glass case showing R. D. Howard as leader of First Violins.  This was on display presumably  to coincide with the 100th anniversary celebration of the birth of Cork Musical genius Aloys Fleischmann. There is a brilliant exhibition on there at the moment as a tribute to Prof Fleischman.  How coincidental is that?   I went back this week to see if there were any available with Snr. Grossi and there were two from 1906. 

It lists him as being a Conductor, a violinist, and a composer on various programmes.  It also listed Madame Grossi as being on Pianoforte. (1906)

I have forwarded one to Ejam already but if you would like me to send you a copy ( photographed as I don't have a scanner!!) send me a PM.

I couldn't put it on this message as it said file too large. It's a pity as more people, I'm sure would like to see them.

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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 09 March 10 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Mary, you're fantastic!!!tnahmk you for help me!!my PM is (*). I wait your information..

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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 09 March 10 18:53 GMT (UK) »
To Cucho,

I have sent you a pm.

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