Hillicks help needed

[Steven1314]

Thought  had found James Hillocks/Hillicks birth in 1860 but as our theory re Rosannah Mathews remarrying John Quail in 1858 it cannot be him.  The one I found was James Hillick date of death 18/6/1860 aged 52. It had status as married but no name of spouse.  The person registering the death is John Hillick (son).  I thought it could be right as on the 1851 census William has a younger brother John but alas the dates don't look good.

Then I thought maybe they had divorced but on Rosannah's marriage in 1858 it has her status as widowed.

At a loss now after thinking I had got somewhere.  If anyone has any new suggestions I would be greatly appreciated.

Steven

[MonicaL]

Unfortunately Steven, I think it is likely that James Snr. may have died pre 1855 which will make it hard (never say never!) to confirm his parents' details.

There is talk of what there is of RC burial registers coming on line at SP at some point but we are still awaiting the marriage registers to go live on SP first.

The last two Hillick children we had were on the 1861 census as aged 9, so born c. 1851-2. There may have been more though who might have died before the 1861 census.

Monica

[MonicaL]

There is a death showing on SP for a likely child of James and Rosannah in 1855, the magic year of certs for Scotland where the entries ran over two pages of the register and included a lot more info than in later years, sadly for a baby by the look of it 

1855 - Hugh HILLACH, mother's maiden name Matthew, in Johnstone Renfrewshire. Age is down on the index as 0, so likely to be under a year old.

Might be worth having a peek at it to see what info it contains all round. Hope it is the right family!

Monica

[MonicaL]

Checking the RC baptisms for the family. All entries at St Mirin's, Paisley. First date is birth, second date is the baptism:

24/08/1844   & 08/09/1844 - James Hillick, Parents JAMES HILLICK/ROSANNA MATTHEWS
24/06/1849   & 19/08/1849 - John Hillick, Parents JAMES HILLICK/ROSAN MATHENS   
24/06/1849   & 19/08/1849 - Susan Hillick, Parents JAMES HILLICK/ROSE ANN MATHENS   
30/05/1852   & 01/06/1852 - Mary Hillock, Parents JAMES HILLOCK/ROSE ANN MATHEWS   
30/05/1852   & 01/06/1852 - Stewart Hillock, Parents JAMES HILLOCK/ROSE ANN MATHEWS
01/12/1854   & 15/12/1854 - Hugh Hillochs, Parents JAMES HILLOCHS/ROSE ANN MATHESON

Twins obviously ran in the family with the two sets showing     

[Steven1314]

Thanks Monica for all the time and help you have given me.

I downloaded the death for Hugh Hillack (although its says Hillach on search when you look at the certificate it says Hillack).  Interestingly it says father James Hillacks is deceased and confirms mother as Roseanna Mathews.

Hugh dies aged 9 and a half months old on October 9th 1855 so you would think this means that James senior dies between 1854 and 1855.

Steven

[MonicaL]

Can't see his death at all in 1855, must have been in 1854 which is such a pity for you. Death certs for 1855 are a minefield of personal info and can even include the burial ground details...but sadly I don't think we will find it that year 

Monica

[Steven1314]

Thanks for checking Monica don't want to give up but think thats it now.

Steven

[stapler40]

Interesting stuff.

I'm looking for a Henry Hillock/Hillick/Hillocks/Hillicks, father of a William Hillock, born 1865 in Belfast. Now the name Hillock is showing up with protestant families but this one was Roman Catholic. I've located a Henry Hillock and MAry BRadley, marrying in Belfast in 1847, St. Patricks, but by 1850s they are in Glasgow. And no child named William is born of these two in Scotland. I know Henry is William's father by William's marriage certificate, to a Ellen Brannan, in 1884, in Belfast.

Do you have any link to Hillick (sp) in Belfast?

thanks

[Steven1314]

Hi there the earliest Hillicks I could trace was James who was born in Armagh, Northern Ireland and was married to a Rose Ann Mathews who was born in Antrim probably around 1820 ish. They moved to Partick in Glasgow and their son William was born on 16th July 1846 in Greenock.  There seems to have been only 1 family Hillicks that moved to Glasgow, had various children.  The name is very rare in Scotland and all stems from James and Rose Ann.

Steven