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[Grollo]

Nedster,

Did you have any luck finding the date of death for James Parr? His marriage was to Emily Martha Tompkings born 1880 in Limehouse. They married on the 1st December 1900 and was widowed from him on 1st December 1907. She must have liked the 1st December because that was the date she married Charles Robert Wade. They would have been my Great Grandparents.

Charles Wade died in RN Hospital Hasler December 1915 from injuries recieved during WW1.

The above I obtained from a member of Genes Reunited who had carried out a lot of research into the Tomkings family.

I found a couple possibles for James Parr on GR. There is one in 1891 aged 10 in Poplar which is a stones throw from Bromley and is almost considered to be as one with Poplar. My gran was brought up and lived in Devons Road area up to the war. He would have been almost 20 (same age as Emily) by December 1900. I know the area well and lived in Poplar till I was 18.

Well I hope this is of some use to you. I have followed in GGrandfather Wades footsteps by going to sea and as its my first day off for a couple of weeks I'm off to enjoy a couple of cold beers in one of Curacao finest seafront bars.

Cheers, George

[nedster]

Nedster,

Did you have any luck finding the date of death for James Parr? His marriage was to Emily Martha Tompkings born 1880 in Limehouse. They married on the 1st December 1900 and was widowed from him on 1st December 1907. She must have liked the 1st December because that was the date she married Charles Robert Wade. They would have been my Great Grandparents.

Charles Wade died in RN Hospital Hasler December 1915 from injuries recieved during WW1.

The above I obtained from a member of Genes Reunited who had carried out a lot of research into the Tomkings family.

I found a couple possibles for James Parr on GR. There is one in 1891 aged 10 in Poplar which is a stones throw from Bromley and is almost considered to be as one with Poplar. My gran was brought up and lived in Devons Road area up to the war. He would have been almost 20 (same age as Emily) by December 1900. I know the area well and lived in Poplar till I was 18.

Well I hope this is of some use to you. I have followed in GGrandfather Wades footsteps by going to sea and as its my first day off for a couple of weeks I'm off to enjoy a couple of cold beers in one of Curacao finest seafront bars.

Cheers, George

Hi George,

Thank you very much for the information regarding my grandfather James Parr, sadly after relentless searches I have never found details of when and how he died.

Thanks for the details regarding Charles Wade, I wonder if Emily married for a third time after his death?

I have still got the burning desire to find more about him, I guess you just gave me the push to renew my investigations.

George I really appreciate your message, once again thank you.

Regards
David.

[Grollo]

Nedster,

There were two girls born to Emily and James. Louise you have details of was born 8/1/1902 and a second born Q4 of the same year. Her name was Emily Margaret Parr. There is a record of her death in Q1 1906 aged 3. Poplar 1C 327 is the reference on FreeBMD. Not sure if you know Poplar but it had one of the highest infant mortality rates in the country for many years.

Emily went on to have five children to Charles Wade. Two boys, Charles and William and three girls Doris, Lilian and Ada, my grandmother. I knew them all when I was growing up except Lilian.

Charles Wade was a seaman on HMS Philomel and I believe he died of injuries during a conflict with Turkish troops during a landing operation of (probably) ANZAC troops during the Gallipoli campaign.

Emily never married again although she had another son to a Joseph Scourfield in 1920. The reason I heard that she never married Scourfield was that she was afraid of losing her Widows War Pension. Scourfield has been described as "a bit fly" (this from a police officer retired) and he tried to do Emily out of her pension. One of her sons gave him such a hiding when he found out that he, the son, run off to join the British Army in India for fear that he may have gone a bit too far! Such was the Wades form of justice. My Nan being one of the worst!

It does seem strange you can find no record of his death. I only joined this site yesterday hoping to find anything of my Rollinson family in Ratcliff but not a mention here. I found some of them in the 1841 census in a house with 22 people of varying families but they disappeared for the next two census.

Good luck with your search.

George

[nedster]

Nedster,

There were two girls born to Emily and James. Louise you have details of was born 8/1/1902 and a second born Q4 of the same year. Her name was Emily Margaret Parr. There is a record of her death in Q1 1906 aged 3. Poplar 1C 327 is the reference on FreeBMD. Not sure if you know Poplar but it had one of the highest infant mortality rates in the country for many years.

Emily went on to have five children to Charles Wade. Two boys, Charles and William and three girls Doris, Lilian and Ada, my grandmother. I knew them all when I was growing up except Lilian.

Charles Wade was a seaman on HMS Philomel and I believe he died of injuries during a conflict with Turkish troops during a landing operation of (probably) ANZAC troops during the Gallipoli campaign.

Emily never married again although she had another son to a Joseph Scourfield in 1920. The reason I heard that she never married Scourfield was that she was afraid of losing her Widows War Pension. Scourfield has been described as "a bit fly" (this from a police officer retired) and he tried to do Emily out of her pension. One of her sons gave him such a hiding when he found out that he, the son, run off to join the British Army in India for fear that he may have gone a bit too far! Such was the Wades form of justice. My Nan being one of the worst!

It does seem strange you can find no record of his death. I only joined this site yesterday hoping to find anything of my Rollinson family in Ratcliff but not a mention here. I found some of them in the 1841 census in a house with 22 people of varying families but they disappeared for the next two census.

Good luck with your search.

George

Hello again George,

Firstly I can't thank you enough for your last message, I can't tell you how excited I got reading it.

So if my research is correct my grandmother had a half sister called Ada who married a man called Johnny, I believe they had two children Audrey and Patrick.
Audrey married George who in turn had three children? Pauline, Janice and Patricia.

I really hope I have my facts correct, as when my parents got married iat the Oval, Ada & Johnny attended and I have a photograph of them.

As a child we used to visit Ada at her house in Poplar, I can still visualise it now, I think it backed onto some sought of park, square

I do have the name Schofield jotted as told by my mother who s still alive, she recalls a company called Johnson and Matthey gold dealers who she thinks a Schofield worked for.

I do hope you make sense of my ramblings, if you wish to contact me by email it is (*)

Regards

David

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