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marriage certificate has wrong parents
« on: Tuesday 09 February 10 04:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I have 2 scottish birth records and both give the marriage of the parents Henry McFadyen and Janet McEwan as: 30th December 1887

The parents of Henry and Janet on this certificate are wrong!

Janet McEwan is the daughter of Andrew McEwan and Margaret McCulloch the certificate has: William McEwan and Janet McAuley

Henry was the son of Henry McFadyen and Eliza Jane Irvine the certificate has: Henry McFadyen and Matilda Henderson

There is only 1 match for this marriage on Scotland people

anyone have any idea where I can go from here

Karen

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Re: marriage certificate has wrong parents
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 05:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi

My first thought is that the birth parents, except for Henry McFadyen senior, died whilst Janet & Henry were young and the couple named the 'parents' who raised them rather than their biological parents. I would research the biological parents and also look for Janet & Henry in censuses prior to their marriage.

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Re: marriage certificate has wrong parents
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 07:58 GMT (UK) »
Do the 2 birth certificates not also list a place for the parents' marriage?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: marriage certificate has wrong parents
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 08:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andy

thanks for the reply

I already have the biological parents of Janet in the census records before and after her marriage. Her father died before she married but her mother never remarried and Janet was present at her death.

What I was wondering was, is it possible that the clerk mixed up two marriages and if so how can I check the page after this listing in the parish register

Karen


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Re: marriage certificate has wrong parents
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 08:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi aghadowey

The birth certificates list the place of marriage as Glasgow, Lanark
The parish record is Dennistoun, Lanark
The couples address on the marriage certificate is 6 Union Street, Glasgow.

Henry & Janet were not at this address in the 1881 or 1891 census or on the childrens birth certs so I can't tie it in that way.

I just find it so confusing that the date & place are right but parents of Janet are definately wrong....Henry is another matter as I do not have his birth certificate

Also the occupation of Henry on the marriage is incorrect as from age 17 (1881 census) to his death he was a cabinet maker/joiner and the marriage lists him as a 'marine stoker'

Karen

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Re: marriage certificate has wrong parents
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 08:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen,

It's possible Henry and Janet just decided to give different names for their parents for whatever reason. It's also possible (and perhaps a tad more likely!) that the clerk has made some errors ... either copying them onto the wrong page or copying them from memory. You can check the previous and following pages on SP using the blue "View Page Before" and "View Page After" buttons at the top left. It will cost you 5 credits per extra image you view.

I can see the 1866 Calton birth for Janet using Andrew/Margaret as parents. But nothing for Henry with either - was he Irish? He's not on the 1891 census with Janet and children, but is he the one in the North Prison? If so, his record is available at the National Archives of Scotland. I can post details if it's correct.

hume :)

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Re: marriage certificate has wrong parents
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Hume

I'll go check the page after they were married.

I just noticed that the top of the parish register reads 1888 for the year but the marriage was 30th December 1887 so its possible this clerk had a 'Scottish New Year' before he did the entry.

thanks

Karen

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 08:25 GMT (UK) »
It could well be a transcription error either they transcribed the couple above or below or else they put the witnesses as parents. To be sure I suppose you have to follow this other couple and find out if their marriage is recorded on same day as yours or that they turn up with the real couple in other census records so that they may be friends.

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Re: marriage certificate has wrong parents
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your help

I have now searched a lot of the entries before and after the marriage of Henry and Janet and can't find anything that will help.

I will say that because of this I have now read the certificate properly and noticed a couple of other things like:
Although the marriage occurred on the 30th December 1887 it wasn't written in the register until 6th January 1888 and it was the 2nd last entry of the day....anyone knows that mistakes happen and especially at the end of the day!
So I am just going to accept the certificate as a faulty one, it is just disappointing as Henrys parents are wrong and another relative who is also doing the tree and is taking them as fact and saying that his father must have married twice! and yes I know Janets parents were also wrong but he is not even looking at that fact (sorry had to have a grumble)

Karen