Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers #2

[deb usa]

James

Do you have children of Hedges and jane Cooley?

deb

[James R. Yeowell]

Just to let you know, John Tickner and Eden Hedges are resident at Sutton Place, Shere, Surrey on every census from 1841, so they should be easy to find.  That information is via the website I posted earlier.  It's very informative.

[James R. Yeowell]

James

Do you have children of Hedges and jane Cooley?

deb

I do not have any noted down, sorry.  I also cannot find them on the 1881 census.  I shall try and look for them again tomorrow.

[deb usa]

Do we already have this
  
ELIAS HEDGES  
 Christening:  06 SEP 1868   West Farleigh, Kent, England
  Parents:
  Father:  ELIAS HEDGES  Family
  Mother:  ALICE  
    
ELVEY HEDGES  ( Is this Alby or Olive) Christening:  09 SEP 1866   West Farleigh, Kent, England 
Parents:
  Father:  ELIAS HEDGES  Family
  Mother:  ALICE    

NANCY HEDGES  (I already have this but looks like they was West Farleigh quite a lot)  Christening:  25 SEP 1870   West Farleigh, Kent, England
  Father:  JOB HEDGES  Family
  Mother:  PHEBE  

ROSA HEDGES 
 Christening:  11 SEP 1864   West Farleigh, Kent, England
  Father:  WILLIAM HEDGES  Family (Think I'm getting William Phobia. Who is this married to an Olive?)  Mother:  OLIFF  

Just after this post I found a Sampson Hedges s.o Thomas and Oliff born same place

now we know that Elias hedges (s/o James and Eliza, and married Alice Reynolds) had a baby brother Thomas who died in the cholera epidemic in 1854, So who would Thomas be who married Oliff and was having children at the same time frame in the same place?
 

here we have Job s/o Job (one of the brothers) = Phoebe Gumble
Elias s/o James (one of the brothers) = Alice Reynolds
Thomas s/o ?? = Oliff??
deb

added ..is the Rosa Hedges chr 1864 one of those who was on the Marriage with Charlotte Bibby and the hedges boys?

[Nennefer]

James

Do you have children of Hedges and Jane Cooley?

deb

I do not have any noted down, sorry.  I also cannot find them on the 1881 census.  I shall try and look for them again tomorrow.

Deb I have the census for John and Jane for 1871. 1881. 1891 and 1901. On each one there is only John and Jane with no children listed. I'm guessing they couldn't have children. In 1871 they are living with Parents William and Frances who are on the page before. Also living there is Alfred and Eliza another son of William and Frances. So if John and Jane had children they don't seam to be recorded on the census. Did we find some elsewhere.
Jenny

[IgorStrav]

Here I am flying in from the Corke/Cooley Kent thread!!! 

I don't think that Jane Cooley and John Hedges had any children.  I have had a look for her as I think she is the sister of my Richard Corke/Cooley, and I have her up until 1901 through the censuses (except, of course, the frustrating 1851 where all my lot are missing).

There seem to be no children in any.  So unless there were children who died - haven't found any of them, yet - there are no children of that marriage.

[jamajo]

Hi All,

       Do we still need to find out about Thomas Hedges b 1801 other children or have

       we got this info already

       What are we still looking for Jenny?

         Sue

[Nennefer]

Do we already have this
  
ELIAS HEDGES  
 Christening:  06 SEP 1868   West Farleigh, Kent, England
  Parents:
  Father:  ELIAS HEDGES  Family
  Mother:  ALICE  
    
ELVEY HEDGES  ( Is this Alby or Olive) Christening:  09 SEP 1866   West Farleigh, Kent, England 
Parents:
  Father:  ELIAS HEDGES  Family
  Mother:  ALICE    

NANCY HEDGES  (I already have this but looks like they was West Farleigh quite a lot)  Christening:  25 SEP 1870   West Farleigh, Kent, England
  Father:  JOB HEDGES  Family
  Mother:  PHEBE  

ROSA HEDGES 
 Christening:  11 SEP 1864   West Farleigh, Kent, England
  Father:  WILLIAM HEDGES  Family (Think I'm getting William Phobia. Who is this married to an Olive?)  Mother:  OLIFF  

Just after this post I found a Sampson Hedges s.o Thomas and Oliff born same place

now we know that Elias hedges (s/o James and Eliza, and married Alice Reynolds) had a baby brother Thomas who died in the cholera epidemic in 1854, So who would Thomas be who married Oliff and was having children at the same time frame in the same place?
 

here we have Job s/o Job (one of the brothers) = Phoebe Gumble
Elias s/o James (one of the brothers) = Alice Reynolds
Thomas s/o ?? = Oliff??
deb

added ..is the Rosa Hedges chr 1864 one of those who was on the Marriage with Charlotte Bibby and the hedges boys?

Sue I'm not at all sure what to be looking for at the moment. I am rather hoping that Debs summery might make clear where we need to be looking next.
Having said that this William and Oliff needs further investigation along with The Thomas and Oliff that deb mentions. Are you following me. What do you think.

ROSA HEDGES 
 Christening:  11 SEP 1864   West Farleigh, Kent, England
  Father:  WILLIAM HEDGES  Family (Think I'm getting William Phobia. Who is this married to an Olive?)  Mother:  OLIFF 


There is also mention of another Brother (Joseph HEDGES mentioned in prison 1841) and a Sister (Elizabeth mentioned on a census with Thomas senior) for the 4 brothers, that could do with further investigation.
Take your pick.

[jamajo]

 Ok im not sure about this

 Have been trying to find about Olive who married Thomas Tripthorpe

We have them in 1901 but i found this marriage

Apr-May-Jun 1918 Olive Tripthorpe in Rochford Essex to a Welch
     Vol 4a   Page 1119

 Have you heard of travellers named Welch Jenny?

  Also i have not found a death for Thomas so ?


          A confused Sue