Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers #2

[deb usa]

Morning everyone

Blimey ...this is all so hard to keep up with ..... I think we def. need a summary of sorts ...will reread again LOL


Re Penfold = Hedges .... I will look into it ...how weird would it be if they were mine ...although my Penfolds were very much travellers and not house-dwellers.

deb

[jamajo]

Hi Deb,

         We def need an update on what we need, im lost

  Thought you may like the Penfold/Hedges census

  Did Jenny have a Selina Hedges somewhere or was it a diff name

      Sue

[James R. Yeowell]

It seems Elias Eastwood may have actually been born as John Eastwood.  Elias may just have been a transcription error.

I have a potential christening for him in Burwash for 1821... if it is him, he'd be a son of William Eastwood and Philadelphia Hawkins.

Philadelphia is a common name at that time in Sussex and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the family somehow linked to West Hoathly or East Grinstead.

[jamajo]

 Oh........... If thats right isn't that Debs area of interest

      Sue

[jamajo]

 This is that family in 1841
    HO107 / 1108 / 5/3/ 5

William Eastwood age 55, occ ag lab
Philadelphia Eastwood age 55
Thomas Eastwood age 25, occ ag lab
Henry Eastwood age 15, occ ag lab
William Clifford age 20
Henry Carpenter age 11
William Ireland age 55
William Ireland age 12
Diana Sweetman age 50

 All b Sussex, Address Tott, Burwash


        Sue

[jamajo]

 Well here they are in 1861, Jenny should be able to tell us if they are hers

          RG09 / 570 / 108 / 12

Thomas Eastwood head age 49 b Burwash, occ ag lab
Harriet wife age 50 b Ticehurst
George son age 15 b Burwash
Sarah dau age 13 b Burwash
Philadelphia mother, widow, age 80 b Burwash

 Address Tott Square, Burwash

       Sue

[James R. Yeowell]

This will help: http://theweald.org/N10.asp?NId=4410509

[James R. Yeowell]

The only issue with this John Eastwood is his birth... the census' say he was born about 1817 or so, whilst the christening says 1821... that's very tight for an 1835 marriage.

However, there are no other John Eastwoods born in Burwash around that time.  There are also no Elias'.

However, he isn't resident with the family in 1841... which does give us hope it is him.

Here they are in 1851:

Tott Houses, Burwash

William Eastwood, M, Head, married, age 66, born Etchingham, Sussex; occupation: Farm labourer
Philadelphia Eastwood, F, Wife, married, age 68, born Burwash, Sussex
John Rich, M, Lodger, married, age 56, born Mayfield, Sussex; occupation: Farm labourer

[James R. Yeowell]

Another member of the family could be a Hawker but posing as a Farm Labourer, because they're located at the Road side.  There are also Hawkers in the village.

1841 census:

Location: Road side, Burwash Village

Henry Eastwood, M, Head, age 35, born Sussex; occupation Farm labourer
Ruth Eastwood, F, [Wife], age 35, born Sussex
Henry Eastwood, M, [Son], age 15, born Sussex
James Eastwood, M, [Son], age 13, born Sussex
Mary Eastwood, F, [Daughter], age 10, born Sussex
Thomas Eastwood, M, [Son], age 7, born Sussex
Ruth Eastwood, F, [Daughter], age 5, born Sussex   
Harriott Eastwood, F, [Daughter], age 1, born Sussex

1851:

Location: Near Town Gate, Burwash Village

Henry Eastwood, M, Head, married, age 49, born Burwash, Sussex; occupation: Farm labourer
Ruth Eastwood, F, Wife, married, age 47, born Heathfield, Sussex
Henry Eastwood, M, Son, single, age 25, born Burwash, Sussex; occupation: Railway labourer
Thomas Eastwood, M, Son, single, age 17, born Burwash, Sussex; occupation: Farm labourer
Ruth Eastwood, F, Daughter, single, age 15, born Burwash, Sussex
Hariet Eastwood, F, Daughter, single, age 10, born Burwash, Sussex; occupation: Scholar
John Eastwood, M, Son, single, age 5, born Burwash, Sussex

Again, Near Town Gate, suggests they don't have a residence.  Perhaps they have a farm though and it's just not described as such.