Questions on Ancestors in England 1600's

[geniecolgan]

Just to add .... if Pleaston was the present day Plaistow, it is very near the River Lea, about 7 km upstream from the Thames and would have been a major commercial route of the time.
Shadwell is in the London Docks on the Thames, between The Tower and Limehouse.

The places mentioned all make sense for a shipwright.

[PrueM]

It was usual at that time in wills to refer to a daughter's husband as my son Francis Jackson.  A son in law would be the son of a spouse by a previous marriage.

David

That was what I was trying to say (quoted below) in a much less elegant way! 

Just a thought - could Francis Jackson be what we would now term a son-in-law?  They seemed to be very liberal with the meanings of relationships in earlier times...

[waynedholland]

That definently makes sense,  from what I can tell of the will Joshua doesnt go to alot of detail in explaining how some people are related.  He mentions his daughter Elizabeth Holland living in Pennsylvania, what he fails to mention is she is married to Anthony Tomkins and living on 1,000 acres of his land in Pennsylvania at that time, I learned that in some Pennsylvania archives.  He also mentions his granddaughter Mary Slany,  I would think that Slany is her married name, but thankfully he does say that she can only get her inheritance once she reaches 21 or is married, so Joshua helped me out a little there.   Its really interesting trying to figure out exactly what someone meant in something they wrote 300+ years ago. 

[waynedholland]

You guys were right!  and Google is an amazing tool.  I googled "Francis Jackson" married daughter of "Joshua Holland" and this is what I found
someone posted 2 years ago

I have found a
> reference to a Joshuah Holland - a mariner - as father of the bride Hannah
> Holland of School Hayle Lane in Radcliff, Joshuah being of the same
> address. She married Francis Jackson of Swithins Lane, London, at
> Devonshire House, on 26th day of 5th mo. called March 1685. The marriage
> was withnessed by Thanks Holland and an Elizabeth Witheridge! with the
> consent of parents and relations, although Joshuah did not appear to have
> signed the certificate. Reference RG6/1437> I couldnt find any of the
> other names you mentioned.> Look forward to seeing you at Reading.> Liz
> Butler

[Gardener]

Well done to you and Google!

At least Thanks is an unusual name.
There is this marriage in the IGI
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

Thanks Holland to Hannah Tilden 27 Jan 1686 St James Dukes Place London.


There are quite a few marriages for Holland at that church - and first names are repeated a bit. 

[waynedholland]

Again thanks, so, so far i have the family looking like this

Joshua Holland married unknown, 14-15 June 1682 bought land from William Penn, he is said to be a mariner, Chatham, County of Kent
  children, 16 May written 26 May proved 1690 Joshua's will states he is from Shadwell, Middlesex
     John Holland    19 May 1683 by power of attorney from father Joshua sold 500 acres of land to Morris Lewellyn of Pennsylvania, has a will written on 29 May 1695, the will is shown 15 April 1720 in Pennsylvania by his widow Maria, son John, vintner of London and daughter Maria in Pennsylvania the will is only referred to and not what it actually says, he is referred to being from Pleaston *possibly Plaistow*, Essex
    Thanks Holland married Hannah Tilden on 27 Jan 1686 at St James Dukes Place, London
    Hannah Holland married Francis Jackson on 26 May 1685 in Devonshire House Society of Friends, London.  School Hayle Lane of Radcliffe is mentioned as her and fathers address
    Elisabeth Holland married Anthony Tomkins, they took up 1,000 acres of land in Bucks County, Pennsylvania
    unknown Holland married unknown Slany, they had daughter Mary Slany mentioned in Joshuas will dated 1690

and I think that is it but in a couple of days the puzzle has really started to come together, thank you all for your trememdous help

[PrueM]

You're welcome! 

What an interesting family you have...stick with Rootschat, you might find even more of them! 

Cheers
Prue

[Gardener]

Found this bit about Hannah Tilden:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DvSYwpSV6fwC&q=%22thanks+holland%22&dq=%22thanks+holland%22&cd=9

Hope the link works.

[waynedholland]

Just found that link myself, interesting little read on the Tilden family, plus adds Stepney to the list of places to Holland's liked to live