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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 14 February 10 22:41 GMT (UK) »
i don't actually think the fund should be used to benefit the heirs, it was just an example, but i would deffo like it to be used in some way that benefits the future forgotten.

I'm afraid that we're all the "future forgotten".   If you don't believe me, just go and look at the churchyards with 200 year old graves which have been allowed to crumble into dust.  Money should be spent on the living, not the dead.

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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #55 on: Monday 15 February 10 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Heir Hunters was in the papers again this weekend.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/editors-choice/2010/02/14/heir-hunters-find-scots-family-of-loner-son-of-mafia-godfather-86908-22042092/

The story where the heir discovered her Mafia connections from the Heir Hunters


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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #56 on: Monday 15 February 10 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant detective work, :)

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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #57 on: Monday 15 February 10 17:15 GMT (UK) »
I find the link to the Daily Record doesn't work very well for me, slowly if at all. Perhaps I should make it an offer it can't refuse.
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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #58 on: Monday 15 February 10 17:18 GMT (UK) »
I read it okay earlier today- although it was a little slow and I did have to press to reload.

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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #59 on: Monday 15 February 10 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Every time I watch HH I marvel at how much is must all be costing, and wonder why the companies don't find a way of divvying up the new cases between themselves at the outset and save themselves a bob or two, or maybe the competition is what keeps them on their toes 8)

As for the lady complaining about the size of the commission, she has the choice of making the claim herself, and if she's got a beef she should have tried to negotiate herself a better deal. Either way, what the HH do is a big responsibility, and it's is money she wouldn't have seen a penny of without them anyway.

Meanwhile, if it's ever our family's turn,  I hope they have better luck with my Uncle Charlie's brood than I ever did :)


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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #60 on: Monday 15 February 10 19:30 GMT (UK) »

As for the lady complaining about the size of the commission, she has the choice of making the claim herself, and if she's got a beef she should have tried to negotiate herself a better deal.




Well, She would have to know who's died. Also renegotiation is tricky after signing the agreement. There may be some mileage in challenging the legality of the agreement though.

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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #61 on: Monday 15 February 10 19:49 GMT (UK) »
"There may be some mileage in challenging the legality of the agreement though"

trust me a firm of our size would not have allowed the BBC to film us if our contract was not legal!

There is a lot of false information flying around that what we do is in some way wrong and out contracts are not legal, if that was the case do you not think that we would have made them legal by now, we have only been doing this since 1923. Please don't believe all you read in the paper or on line as true. There is one firm that has been trying to control the market who only charge by the hour they have done a big campaign to say that the industry needs regulation, I agree it should be regulated. However in a lot of areas it is already regulated, F&F is regulated by ISO 9001 , ISO 27001, Data Protection ICO, AGRA, APG, Lexcel, FSO, and I am sure several others; our contracts are also regulated by the Trade Descriptions act, Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations and Cancellation of Contracts Made in a Consumer's Home or Place of Work etc Regulations.

F&F have been open regulation. I think there is a bigger issue to a firm that is not open to where research is conducted and how it is charged for than there is ever about  agreements being legal.

I firmly believe that a % agreement is the fairest way to charge rather than an unregulated hourly charge when work is done on the cheap in India and charged as if it is done in the UK.



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Re: Bad press for heir hunters
« Reply #62 on: Monday 15 February 10 20:05 GMT (UK) »
"There may be some mileage in challenging the legality of the agreement though"

trust me a firm of our size would not have allowed the BBC to film us if our contract was not legal!

There is a lot of false information flying around that what we do is in some way wrong and out contracts are not legal, if that was the case do you not think that we would have made them legal by now, we have only been doing this since 1923. Please don't believe all you read in the paper or on line as true. There is one firm that has been trying to control the market who only charge by the hour they have done a big campaign to say that the industry needs regulation, I agree it should be regulated. However in a lot of areas it is already regulated, F&F is regulated by ISO 9001 , ISO 27001, Data Protection ICO, AGRA, APG, Lexcel, FSO, and I am sure several others; our contracts are also regulated by the Trade Descriptions act, Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations and Cancellation of Contracts Made in a Consumer's Home or Place of Work etc Regulations.

F&F have been open regulation. I think there is a bigger issue to a firm that is not open to where research is conducted and how it is charged for than there is ever about  agreements being legal.

I firmly believe that a % agreement is the fairest way to charge rather than an unregulated hourly charge when work is done on the cheap in India and charged as if it is done in the UK.




Have any agreements been challenged?

My concerned is for people who sign agreements where the other party is withholding information, hardly a 'fair' contractual situation.