Paley family

[jamsuzsar]

Could anyone out there know of a Paley family 10 children born in the Kent area from 1875-1901.  At least 3 immigrated.  Father was Walter Paley and mother was Ellen Rycroft.

Jam of Australia

[MaryA]

You really need some more details before anybody could help, such as names or dates of a couple of the children.  You may be serching in the wrong county as the only marriage I could find for the information you give is

Walter Townsend Paley Q4 1880 Chapel en le Frith  7b 1253.  There is an Ellen Rycroft listed as one of the possible brides.

Chapel en le Frith  is in Derbyshire not Kent.

[MaryA]

This couple gets around, I suspect I have the right people in the 1891 census

30 Coventry Street, Brighton Sussex
Walter T Paley Head M 36 Coal Merchant's Collector Lancashire, Preston
Ellen Wife M 29 Cheshire, Birkenhead
Walter T Son 3 Sussex, Brighton
George T son 2 " "
Dorothy M T daur 1 " "
RG12; Piece:  820; Folio  64; Page  41

Do these names ring any bells with you?

[nanny jan]

Hi,

If  MaryA has the right couple, then here's Walter's christening, found on the IGI (extracted record):


Walter Townsend Paley    24 August 1854  St.John, Preston Lancashire


Parents:  John Gartside Paley & Rachall



Nanny Jan

[MaryA]

I was beginning to doubt I had the right people, since there's quite a number of years before their first obvious child, but now I see where Kent comes into this

1901
9 London Road, Southborough, Kent
Walter Paley Head M 46 Cattle Dealer on his own account Lancashire Preston
Ellen Wife M 39 Cheshire Birkenhead
Walter son 14 Sussex Brighton
George son 12 " "
Dorothy daur 11 " "
Gwendoline daur 8 " "
Eileen daur 7 " "
Edward son 5 " "
Victoria daur 3 " "
James son 7 months Kent Southboro
RG13; Piece:  756; Folio:  91; Page:  25.

[nanny jan]

Hi,

FreeBMD has some Paley births/deaths in Sussex that seem to fit:

Cyril Townsend Paley      d  SepQ 1886 Steyning         aged 4 years

Charles Harry T Paley     b MarQ 1886   d JunQ 1887  aged 1       both in Steyning

Might explain the "gap" 


Nanny Jan

[MaryA]

Don't know when they emigrated, but at sometime they moved to the Middlesex area as around about 1910-1912 they are living in the Edmonton district, Walter claims he's 50, Ellen 45, Dorothy 21, Gwendoline 19, Eileen 17, Edward 15, Victoria 13, James 11 and Philip 8.  Somebody else living with them called Lawrence Schwabe aged 57.  I suspect they moved there between the births of Victoria and James since James and Philip's birthplaces are NOT Brighton.

[MaryA]

With Nanny Jan's help we can go back a bit further.

1871 see's 16 year old Walter as a pupil in the District Rossall College, Northern Church of England School, in Poulton Le Fylde, Thornton, Lancashire.
RG10; Piece:  4224; Folio:  147; Page:  7

Alice Clara Paley is a 15 year old pupil at Castlemore House, Castleton, Lancashire.
RG10; Piece:  4118; Folio:  122; Page:  36

1861
3 St James Place, Dickenson Road, Rusholme, Lancashire
James S? Paley Head M 34 Coal Agent Lancashire Moston
Rachael Wife M 33 Lancashire Rochdale
Frederick S Son 8 Scholar Lancashire Preston
Walter T son 6 " " "
Alice C daur 5 " " "
Isabella Gregson servant Un 28 Domestic Servant Lancashire Poulton
Jane Williams Servant Un 15 " Cheshire Bromborough
RG9; Piece:  2874; Folio:  111; Page:  44

[MaryA]

Death for Rachel Paley Q3 1866 Chorlton  8c 353 age 35
Death for James Gartside Paley Q2 1867 W. Derby  8b 337 age 40

Wonder what he was doing in Liverpool then?  I don't think you live in England so don't mistake the West Derby registration district for Derbyshire, it's in Lancashire, close to Liverpool.