LoneyBones Scavenger Hunt - Part 2...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[jaywit]

Leoni Going off at a bit of a tangent.
Is that baptism record the only documentary evidence of Elizabeth's date of birth?
If so I wonder if the vicar got a load of information off her and mixed it up?
What I would try and do is see i you can find anything out about the vicar in particular how old was he?
At that time vicars often wouldn't retire, they would stick it out as long as they could.
I have some PR's where at one point there is a note that the vicar had written the wrong name down for the child, and there is a note that a godparent had agreed this is what had happened.
Not long after is the burial of the vicar, well into his 80s.
So deafness, forgetfullnes, dementia all a possibility.
Mind you if you find out he was a young man then that is out of the window.

[LoneyBones]

It's all relevant Jaywit. 
Actually, altho' I don't know his age, John Frederick Churton's daughter's marriage is on the same page as Elizabeth's and John's. 
Catherine Letitia CHURTON married Charles HEAPHY, on 20th October, 1851. There's another marriage for November and then my GGGrandparents married 25th November, 1851.
The other thing I do know about him...he had shocking hand-writing.    He did make a mess of that date tho'.

Leonie.

[Ebch]

Moi- James Belfour/Elizabeth Belfour christening 14/9/1834 can be ruled out.  He is in 1851 census - now Master Mariner and Elizabeth Balfour still at home.

[majm]

Hi,

The Rev'd J F Churton 1797-1853

http://www.historic.org.nz/TheRegister/RegisterSearch/RegisterResults.aspx?RID=563&m=advanced

John Frederick Churton was the first minister of St Paul's, occupying that role for fourteen years. Born in London in 1797, he completed a law degree before taking holy orders. Churton arrived in Wellington in 1840 to take up an appointment as chaplain for the Church of England Society, but within a few months was appointed to Christ Church at Russell in the Bay of Islands (currently the earliest surviving church in New Zealand). Under Governor William Hobson, Churton became colonial chaplain, also serving as the first minister of St Paul's after the foundation of Auckland as colonial capital. He ministered to the imperial troops stationed in New Zealand, hospital patients and prisoners. He died in January 1853, at which time the New Zealander reported that: 'the death of Mr. Churton cannot be regarded as less than a calamity.'

There's a fuller article     Looking very good for Jaywit's theory !     Thanks Ebch for checking that Belfour reference out 

I reckon Leonie will be at the head of the queue tomorrow at the front door of that Library 

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Hi there everyone, especially LB and Jaywit    ... Jaywit you were not off on a tangent .... Looky ....

Re Rev J F Churton.... and Auckland in Jan 1853 ....  there was an epidemic of influenza....  there's several obits for him on NZ papers past, one noting that he ministered to all denominations (re Elizabeth being perhaps non-conformist..).  His death (on 26 Jan 1853) : Daily Southern Cross, Volume X, Issue 583, 28 January 1853, Page 2.

His passing was also mentioned in several of the OZ newspapers, including this short paragraph from the Sydney Morning Herald Thursday 24 February 1853 pg 2 of 4
(noting items from newspapers from Auckland) ....The influenza was very prevalent. Among others cut off by it was the Rev.J.F. Churton, who has been Colonial Chaplain at Auckland from its first establishment, and appears to have been highly respected.

So Elizabeth was christened by him on 16 Jan 1853 and so too was Harriet (witness to Elizabeth and John Ennis' marriage in 1851) .... I think it is likely that he was quite ill with the flu when on 16 Jan 1853 he recorded that birthdate of 23 Feb 1831 ... the flu ....

Cheers,  JM
 

[Tephra]

Sounds like you could be right JM........it's a wonder the poor girl wasn't Christened Atishoo......   

[LoneyBones]

Now I feel really bad about disparaging his handwriting. 

I couldn't wait....I went to the library today.
Except my special librarian was off sick.  I found the pages on Ancestry you found JM but I couldn't print them and the librarian today doesn't do genealogy and doesn't know anything about Ancestry or how to get printouts. 

Oh well, back to waiting for the divorce papers.

[alpinecottage]

Do you still need info from BMDregisters - if so, I think I can oblige.  Just spell out clearly what you want as I can't follow the thread  too complicated when you've not been following closely.

[LoneyBones]

I know the feeling. 

It's pages from St Martins in the fields Westminster. But I think I've got someone on it for me thank you muchly. 

They're for an Elizabeth DAVIS and a Mary DAVIES, mother Mary, with no father on the records.
But I also found, between their two baptism dates, a marriage for  Mary DAVIES and David DAVIES. SO, more spanners in the works. 

I'm in the middle of cooking dinner, be back shortly.