LoneyBones Scavenger Hunt - Part 2...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[AngelaR]

No births in BMDregisters for Elizabeth Davies before 1832 - only birth is 1835 in Register of Births at Dr Williams Library in Cripplegate London.

There are a few other Eliz Davis/ies  bapt 1829-1832 in London - do you want details?

I think it would be useful - ELizabeth was supposedly a member of an independant church, so baptisms in those need to be eliminated. Just my opinion of course

[Ebch]

There is an Elizabeth Davis b 25 Dec 1830 - christened Dr Williams Library - Father Benjamin Davis - Mother Elizabeth, maternal grandfather William Axam.  Axam seems to be predominately from Bedfordshire and Wiltshire.

[LoneyBones]

OK, I'm back.  Still half asleep..... very hot and muggy here, slept late. 

I was up very late last night, followed the link from jaywit re Parishes, found St Martins in the Fields. Also some help from Barbara there, because I hadn't kept scrolling down far enough.
Finally found SMitFs.....it's a whole world, well village....so the baptism could very well have occured on the day of birth. I don't imagine the 'inmates' were encouraged to have the same 'lying in' time that another woman in a better off situation would have. 
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/StMartins/
Worth looking at.
I like this little group, that is; Mary DAVIS, mother of Elizabeth DAVIS (b.23 Feb. 1832) married David DAVIES (m.10 Feb. 1833) then Mary DAVIES (b.10 Nov, 1834)
I certainly don't rule out any others at this point, so I'm still looking.
Yours looks good Ebck, and yes please Angela. 

I think Barbara is doing something with Karenlee's printer there JM.  Fingers crossed.

[LoneyBones]

Also...I'm not really concerned that Elizabeth is noted as Independent religion on the STATELY list after being baptised as Anglican. Any number of reasons, least of all that as an adult she may have felt no affiliation to St Martin in the Fields, or that she was unaware of that baptism, or that she just plain didn't care. A lot can happen in twenty years of growing up.
No offence meant Angella, and  I did check the Non-Parochial Church BDMs, didn't find anything.

[jaywit]

My guess and it is only a guess is that with workhouse births women were not given much choice as to the denomination their children were baptised into. OK maybe RC would definitely be baptised in their own faith but any others would have been told, Rev xxx is baptising today get yours done, especially if there was some doubt wether the baby would survive.
Any marriage before 1837 would have had to have taken place in C of E church, so a marriage church proves nothing, but maybe and it it again only a guess if the marriage is correct then David Davies was a member of an Independent chapel and Elizabeth was brought up from as early age as she could remember in that branch of Non Conformism she assumed she was baptised there, or again there maybe lurking somewhere an Independent baptism.
Some non conformist chapels held on to their records and over time as chapels closed, were amalgamated etc. the records can't be found.

[Ebch]

There is an Elizabeth Davis b 25 Dec 1830 - christened Dr Williams Library - Father Benjamin Davis - Mother Elizabeth, maternal grandfather William Axam.  Axam seems to be predominately from Bedfordshire and Wiltshire.

No Benjamin Davis with an Elizabeth in 1841 census. There is:
Benjamin Davis 35 - Night Lodge House Whitechapel
and in Clerkenwell Workhouse there is
John Davis Labourer 40
Elizabeth Davis   55
William Davis 70
Ann Davis Nurse 55

[LoneyBones]

Just wondering if anyone has access to passenger lists for New Zealand and can check arrival of Thomas & Harriett POWLEY, about 1848. If there is a John INNIS/ENNIS on the same ship. Could be as crew...carpenter.
Confirmation would, I think, rule out any family link between Elizabeth DAVIS and Harriett POWLEY.
I can't find any other link between Elizabeth and Harriett.
John was thought to have arrived in NZ about that time, so maybe on the same ship. 
Then if Elizabeth and Harriett worked together as milliner/dressmaker, that would be the connection.
Lu mentioned that Harriett had a millinery business. There are several refs in Papers Past to both Elizabeth DAVIS as milliner/dressmaker and Harriett POWLEY as milliner/draper.

Thanks.

[majm]

Hi LB,

I've just been trawling through an NZ site ...   ...

http://ouraucklandstuff.freeservers.com/

Noticed this entry on that site, so err....  perhaps worth adding to the "set aside for the moment" pile  ... Elizabeth had not yet left England, but John Ennis was probably already in NZ 

ENNIS Died 4th January 1850, Mary Jane Ennis, aged 16 months.

Could this lass be related to John Ennis ....

PS I think there's some passenger lists on a similar site : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

 

On that site, http://ouraucklandstuff.freeservers.com/KendallIJ.htm  I've spotted Auckland birth for Elizabeth's eldest lass .... 

07 Oct 1852 Innes Constance (to) John and Elizabeth Davis (he a )Carpenter (at) Auckland .... I think I recall you already have the birth certificate, but I wonder where the transcriber found the details  as the other NZ children for John and Elizabeth don't seem to be listed there.... 

PS, do you think that perhaps Harriett's husband may have been a soldier ... Fencibles went to NZ in late 1840's ... I've several on one of my NZ lines ...  I'll dig out my hard copy later this evening.

Cheers,

JM