Taylor in Gateshead - COMPLETED THANKS

[Colin Cruddace]

Hi Dem,

His job is the root of the problem. A cordwainer would have had to complete an apprenticeship, so a labourer to become one is very unlikely. There is no John Young in the area with that profession, so is there any reason why she would need to make things appear as though she was of better stock?

It's the only suggestion that I can come up with. I've checked all Ann's of the right age born Gateshead through the earlier census, in case she wasn't a Young when registered but nothing seemed likely.

Colin

[c-side]

His job is the root of the problem. A cordwainer would have had to complete an apprenticeship, so a labourer to become one is very unlikely. There is no John Young in the area with that profession, so is there any reason why she would need to make things appear as though she was of better stock?

I have been wondering about that too so today I had a look at the original marriage entry in the parish records.  She is marrying a miner who is the son of a miner so I don't see any reason for 'keeping up appearances'.  One thing I did notice was that her signature was very good - a smooth flowing hand which could indicate that she was educated.  Her witness, Jane Ann Fenwick, also had a good signature.

Incidentally, Dem, St. John the Baptist is not in Walker but in the centre of Newcastle.  I don't know whether this might add another dimension to your research.

Christine

[Demeter]

Hi,

Thanks for taking a look at the marriage record.  Ann's husband, Ralph Taylor was a miner, from their addresses on census records, he worked at pits in the Walker area.

The census records for William, Ralph's father, show him as a 'Puddler', which I believe is someone who works with iron and was quite a dangerous job, and then a labourer.

I'm still hoping that the birth certificate sheds some light on it all, always assuming that one of the certificates I've ordered is the right one.  The other possibility I've thought of is that Ann wasn't born in Gateshead after all, but maybe the family moved there when she was very young.  She wouldn't be the first person in my family who was recorded as being born in one place but baptism or registration took place somewhere else altogether, in which case I'll have the devil of a job tracking her down

Dem

[Colin Cruddace]

I had a quick browse of Historical Directories and checked for cordwainers but there weren't any, so then checked shoemakers but there was no Young shown. This was about 1858.
Another Directory showed there was a John Young shopkeeper, and a couple of other Youngs.

I didn't have a lot of time to check, so it might be worth re-checking.

Colin

[Demeter]

Thanks for that Colin, it looks as though the mystery continues.....

Dem

[Demeter]

Hi to Colin, Christine & Barbara

I just thought I'd update this before I marked it completed.

I've now got Ann Young's bIrth cert. 

Born 30/05/1848

Parents:

John Young, labourer
and Hannah Young, formerly Dixon.

So it appears that the cordwainer was an redherring (or more likely a mistake on my part somewhere along the line - apologies for that).

Hannah Dixon was definately born in Ponteland and I've been able to find her parents and a few siblings 

Thanks again for all of your help

Dem

[Colin Cruddace]

Thanks for letting us know, Dem. It's much appreciated.

It certainly sounds as though you have the right one now. Good luck with your research.

Colin

[c-side]

Cordwainer was definitely the red herring but not your mistake - that's what it said on the parish marriage entry.

At least you know that your're on the right track now.

Happy hunting

Christine

[Ecneps]

Thank you for letting us know, glad to have helped a little,

good luck
Barbara