Taylor in Gateshead - COMPLETED THANKS

[Ecneps]

The only clue I have for Ann's birth date is the 1911 census return, which gives her age as 51, so I'm looking around 1849 - 1852 to give some margin for error, but maybe my margin isn't big enough  .

1849 Gateshead if she's the one with husband William and daughter Elizabeth on 1871 census 

Barbara

Do you not have any other census than 1911?  Can give details of 1871-1901 if required

Barbara 

[2zpool]

Ponteland Baptisms:  Hannah Dixon baptised 20 Aug 1815 d/o Thomas and Margaret.

Bunch of siblings too

I found one baptism before 1812:  Thomas Dixon born 18 July 1811, baptised 29 Dec 1811 1st son of Thomas Dixon, Mason, of Ponteland, Native of Alnwick, by his wife Margaret Lumsden, Native of this parish

Janis

[Demeter]

Hi and thanks Barbara and Janis,

I've found the family on the 1891 & 1901 censuses, living at Henry Pit, Walker.

1891, family as follows:
William Taylor - Head
Ann - wife,
Ann - d
John william - s
Ralph - s
George - s
Samuel - s
Maxwell - s
Hannah Gertrude - d (but baptised Gertrude Hannah)

1901 - still at Henry Pit, but daughter Ann is now called Ann Gilchrist and has a child, Elizabeth aged 1

1911 - living at 543 Shields Rd, Walker

I haven't found them on the 1871 & 1881 census as yet.

Janis - many thanks for the baptism for Hannah.  I'll follow this up :-)

Dem

[Ecneps]

1881 census  RG11 Piece 5085 Folio 111 Page 39  living in Longbenton, Northumberland

1871 census RG10  Piece  5057  Folio  86  Page 11  Gateshead


Barbara 

[Colin Cruddace]

The only clue I have for Ann's birth date is the 1911 census return, which gives her age as 51, so I'm looking around 1849 - 1852 to give some margin for error

Dem,

Could you please confirm the details, this would give her birth about 1859/60. The 1911 entry should also give how long she has been married and the number of children, both living and deceased. Working back from a positive fact is the way to go with this one. I had a quick look last night and came up with the same family as the 'big guns' from the information you gave, but this 1911 information puts a different light on things - unless there was a typo

Regards,
Colin

[Ecneps]

Big guns??


Think it's a typo Colin,  Ann was aged 62 in 1911

52 in 1901, 42 in 1891, 32 in 1881

unless I've been following the wrong couple!!

Barbara
 

[Demeter]

Apologies Barbara and Colin - it is a typo Ann was aged 52 on the 1901 census, not 1911.  So she would have been born around 1849/50.

and thanks for the reference for the 1871 census

I've ordered the certs for the births in 1850 & 1848, on the proviso that the father's name is John - fingers crossed!

Dem

[Colin Cruddace]

Why the questions marks Barbara, are you being modest

The most likely birth was registered in Q3 1848 but through all census records her dad John was a labourer (I seem to remember that I couldn't find the 1861) and that conflicts with those marriage details. (I've just spotted Dem's reply). I haven't noted the family details but it might be worth the additional expense of getting a siblings marriage to see what John's job was given as.

Another thing that has been buzzing around is the ages of the married couple, Ann is shown as 1 year older than William so there's a possibility that her age has been trimmed a bit and she could have been born earlier than we have looked at. There are 2 possible registrations but I haven't checked census yet.

Colin

[Demeter]

Thanks Colin.

Unfortunately, ordering birth certificates for siblings isn't an option at the minute as I don't have any possible names 

The labourer/cordwainer thing confuses me too.  He's definately listed on the marriage cert as a cordwainer, but like you I've had no joy in finding him on the census, which is a puzzle. 

I guess it's possible that he changed tack job wise, but why he would start off as a labourer then become a cordwainer beats me.  Hopefully the birth certificates might shed some light on things.

I'm not sure that her age would have been 'trimmed' by much - her youngest child, Gertrude Ann, was born in 1891, which would make Ann 43ish when she was born, but maybe 5 years is possible.

Dem