Smart Family Key Information Required

[MonicaL]

Joe, don't assume that the grandchildren showing on that 1891 census entry are all Margaret's children - they are simply noted as grandchildren so unclear as to which of the Smart children is the parent. You would have to check the birth registrations for the children to confirm who the Smart parent was.

You also have Margaret's birth as late 1866, so her age on the 1891 census should have been showing as 24 not 28 which is why it may be worthwhile you checking the original image on SP to see whether it has mistranscribed on the Ancestry transcript. For example, at 14 years old, unlikely she would be the mother of the Ann aged 10 who shows as a grandchild. Is the Donald showing as 9 months at the time of the 1891 census Margaret's illegitmate child (with Irish Daddy)?

Margaret's marriage entry to Donald Smart in 1892 should also show marital status (widow/spinster).

Monica

[MonicaL]

From reply #5, Carole has also posted the family entry for 1881 at Landsend, Falkland:

William Smart 57 b Collessie Fifeshire road labourer
Ann G   47 b Cullen Banffshire
Mary A  16 b Kettle
Georgina 12 b Freuchie
Ann  10 Months granddaughter b Freuchie

So, Ann grandaughter likely born in 1880 from her age.

Margaret is not showing in this entry.Two possible entries for her in 1881:

Agnes Smith 62, head b. Clackmannan, Clackmannanshire
Ann Smart 17, boarder, factory Worker  b. Glassie, Fifeshire
Margaret Smart 14, boarder, factory Worker b. Falkland

Address: Mill Street, Dunfermline

John Cuthbert 55, Farmer & Miller 160 Acres Arable Unemploying 5 Men 1 Boy & 2 Women
Grace A Cuthbert 46
Isabella Arthur 19, dairy maid b. Carnbee, Fifeshire
Margaret Smart 14, outdoor worker b. Kettle

No address showing, just Falkland

Monica

[weemanswife]

Hi JoeM,

Have been looking at your post and was wondering if you have a tree on Ancestry.  As I have come across a person who seems to be researching the same family as you. 

Joan

[cheekywan]

Hi Joe

I checked SP for Williams birth and he is definately the child of Mary Ann Smart he is described as illegitmate (a  horrible word) but there is no father listed.

So this one isn't Margaret's, chances are the older one Ann isn't either?

Birth 18 Jan 1888  Lands End,  Freuchie

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[JoeM]

Monica,

Seems the closer I get the further the way I get.

I think I will have to change my name from JoeM to just DazedandConfused 

[JoeM]

weemanswife,

I didn't know you could post your family tree on Ancestry.

How do I go about doing that.

I would love to share with others, if only to possibly make their search easier.

If you would like to offer the other person, on my behalf, the opportunity to look at what I have found so far I would be more than happy to share.

JoeM

[MonicaL]

DazedandConfused and hopelessly hooked like the rest of us on this hobby 

Cheeckywan, thanks for confirming the parent for William  That really just leaves potentially Donald as Margaret's son prior to her marriage in 1892 you would think.

Monica

[weemanswife]

Hi

I have emailed the owner of the tree on Ancestry to have alook at your posts on rootschat.  Ancestry is a pay site and is quite expensive.

He has:  William Smart b1823 Collessie, Fife    & Agnes Ann Grant b1829 Banff

Their children are:- Barbara Smart    no birth date
                               Ann Smart          11- Sept 1855  Kettle, Fife
                               John Smart         22 Jun 1857  Kettle     died 24 Jan 1944 Lands End Fife
                               Helen Smart       30 Dev 1859 Orkie, Fife
                               Donald Smart     3 Mar 1862 Orkie, Fife
                               Mary Ann Smart  29 Nov 1864 Orkie, Fife
                               Margaret SMart  31 Dec 1866 Orkie, Fife
                               Georgina Smart   15 Mar 1869 Lands End, Fife

There is no more on Margaret but lists John and his family.  You may have all this but thought you would be interested. 
           
                               

[oldbear]

Hi all,  I'm not a very regular visitor to this site but have just caught up with this Smart thread. Barbara Smart was my gg grandmother, born 25 October 1853.  Her siblings were;

Ann  b. 11.9.1855 at Little Orkie, Parish of Kettle. (Orkie is a farm near Freuchie, they would have been in a farm cottage)
John b. 22.6.1857 @ Orkie
Helen b. 30.12.1859 @ Orkie
Donald b. 3.3.1862 @ Orkie
Mary Ann b. 29.11.1864 @ Orkie
Margaret b.31.12.1866 @ Orkie
Georgina b. 15.3.1869 @ Falkland (will need to check this)

I also have a possible sibling called Eliza born in 1862 but again, will need to check this.

I live near Edinburgh and will be visiting the Scotland's People Centre towards the end of October so I will focus on this branch of my tree and see what I can unearth. I have information on John's marriage and of course my line through Barbara, plus some other bits and pieces that may be of interest. I haven't had much luck finding Landsend, I think it was a farm but no longer exists (I was in Falkland and Freuchie today having a look around the cemeteries)