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Re: Smart Family Key Information Required
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 31 January 10 18:29 GMT (UK) »
We do know that David did work on the Riggs farm, but not sure if this was before or after the marriage.

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 31 January 10 19:10 GMT (UK) »
Joe, that is a hard search  ;D

Searching the entire Falkland parish in 1891 for a man born in Ireland, doesn't bring up many. A couple of married men and then one John Murphy, born c. 1839, labouring at Feus Freuchie. Not much else for that census point  :-\

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 31 January 10 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Monica,

I realize it will be a difficult search and will take years not days to find the answer.

Probably the best is to identify where she was living in 1891 and look in the immediate area, not Fife in general.

That would be far to labor intensive.

Assuming she didnt like older or younger men, he would have to be between 18 and 35 as she would be approximately 25 years old.

Depending on the "Lust Factor" he may or may not have been married at the time.

I am currently going through personal papers of my grandmother's who was married to Donald Grant Smart.

If I get lucky there may be a gem to be found.

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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 31 January 10 22:39 GMT (UK) »
When you say look for Margaret in 1891, is she not in the household with parents William and Ann that Carole posted earlier. I assumed that her age may have mistranscribed given she is down as 28 rather than 24 on the transcript. Showing as their daughter and right birth place.

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« Reply #22 on: Monday 01 February 10 00:56 GMT (UK) »
Now that is interesting.

Does it show where she is living or if there are a set of Irish eyes a smiling near?  ::)

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 01 February 10 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Have a look at Post #7 from Carole with the family's 1891 entry at Landsend, Falkland. You may need to look at the original to make sure there are no mistranscriptions.

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 01 February 10 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Can I ask why this Irish man is important, did they have a child together?  If so,, perhaps his name would apprear on his birth certificate?

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 02 February 10 02:51 GMT (UK) »
Cheekywan,

You got it right.

It seems before David and Margaret got married, the "Irishman" and Margaret were quite close as she got pregnant by him.

I think it may have been the case of Irish eyes a smiling.  ;D

Donald Grant Smart is actually the son of the "Irishman" and Margaret, the rest of the children are from David and Margaret.

It was no secret to the family, it had been discussed on a couple of occasions but as with all things what does appears not to be important at the time is not remembered and the sad thing is that those who were in the "know" have all since passed away.

In tracing our linage, it would only be proper to do a complete job of it.

What I find unique about Donald's first name is that there were no Donalds in the Smart's line nor any in the Grant's line (that I have found so far).

This kind shoots the paternal or materanal nameing sequence in the foot.


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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 02 February 10 03:14 GMT (UK) »
Monica,

I must not have paid attention to something that may have been so obvious.

David and Margaret did not get married untill November 5/1892.

It looks like she already had two children Ann 10 and William 3, as well as Donald age 9 months.

There is a good possibility that David's and Margaret's marriage was Margaret's second.

Being 28 at the time of the 1991 census and Ann being 10, Margaret would have been 17 or 18 when she had Ann.

I was not aware that Margaret had two other children. Now I have to search for a marriage for Margaret and the "Unknow Man" who may be our missing "Irish Man". 

Does this make sense or am I barking up the wrong tree?

William Smart 68 b Collessie
Ann   58 b Banff
Margaret 28 b Kettle
Ann   10 g/dtr
William   3 g/son
Donald 9 Months g/son
Falkland ED 7 Page  23 Line 19