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Re: An elusive Birth registration
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 28 January 10 20:58 GMT (UK) »
You have approached the Dept of Family Affairs or whatever it is called there?

Everyone has a right to an identity, sure they will trawl the adoption records for you.

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Re: An elusive Birth registration
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 28 January 10 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Aniph,  yes I have tried all the departments and there is no records of him with them.  I assume what happened was he was registered with his original name - whatever that was - and for some reason he was put into the orphanage and given a different name.  Seems this was quite common in those days for reasons that were not disscussed, which always led him to believe he was illegitimate.  But I am assured he would have been originally registered at BDM but of course with no obvious name there is no way to search.  This is why I wondered if all births on his DOB  (10 June 1918) could be searched and something may 'gel'.  No doubt with all the new regulations regarding privacy this will be even more impossible.

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Re: An elusive Birth registration
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 January 10 21:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi suzs,

I found mine in the Auckland public library on microfiche,

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Re: An elusive Birth registration
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 28 January 10 21:24 GMT (UK) »

  This is why I wondered if all births on his DOB  (10 June 1918) could be searched and something may 'gel'. 
Sue

Have you put the question of a search by date or month (in birth year) to NZ BDM ?

*  Do you know "place of birth"  ?



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Re: An elusive Birth registration
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 28 January 10 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Lucy,  yes I did some time ago but it seems it does not come under their search criteria, which I guess answered my question, but I am sure there must be someway around it. I guess there could be hundreds of baby boys born on this day but I was happy to pay any amount for someone there to do an extensive search, but no joy.   No he has no idea of place of birth.  he knew nothing other than growing up in the orphanage, parentless and then befriended later by a family. 

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Re: An elusive Birth registration
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 28 January 10 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Suz

Yes, I too got a similarly vague response from BDM though my search had been for a couple of decades earlier and was of an era when parents could easily "get away with" not registering a birth.   ::)


*   Was the orphanage in a major town or city ?

*   You have his earliest school record - aged 5 - is that correct ?   
(And guardian's name given, is presumably that of the orphanage's caretaker ?)


Edit:    Forget these questions.   Obviously some info has been exchanged via the PM system here - re: Willard Home ?
  ::)

I would not wish to offer you false hope, but there are other things you could try - depending on whether you are prepared to say ... trawl the birth microfiche for 1918 .

I'll leave it at that.   ;)

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Re: An elusive Birth registration
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 28 January 10 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Lucy,  yes I did some time ago but it seems it does not come under their search criteria, which I guess answered my question, but I am sure there must be someway around it.

It might be worth asking BDM again.  DIA had a major upgrade in their data matching capabilities recently.  It is highly likely that they now have (or will have) the capability to search by birthdate.
I guess there could be hundreds of baby boys born on this day but I was happy to pay any amount for someone there to do an extensive search, but no joy. 

Probably fewer than on hundred.
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Re: An elusive Birth registration
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 28 January 10 23:02 GMT (UK) »
One source seems to imply that Willard Home was not an orphanage until 1920.  From 1917-1920 it was used as accommodation for the families of WW1 Awapuni military personnel, at the original Fitzherbert Street premises.  As a long shot you might try other orphanages in PN existing at the same time.
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 28 January 10 23:03 GMT (UK) »
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