Joyce TROUP b late 1920s

[jetden]

Hello,

I am hoping that someone may be able to give me information.

She lived in Hertfordshire in late 1940s.

Regards,

jetden

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[dawnsh]

Hi jetden

Welcome to Rootschat 

What sort of information are you specifically looking for?

Bear in mind, Rootschat does have a policy for not allowing information to be posted on living people.

Dawn

[jetden]

Hello Dawn,

in answering your question about my search for JOYCE EMILY TROUP.

Norcap, Salvation Army can not help. There are no adoption records, adoption agency records, hmcs court records or hospital birth records. GRO do not have any registered birth, marriage or death of this lady. 

I am seeking help to trace any information on my Wife's birth Mother. She may be now deceased.

By allowing my post to be published on this forum could instigate help and assistance.


If you decide not to publish, please can you recommend where I may be able to obtain information? I only have her name and address for 1948, as appears on my Wife's recently acquired birth certificate.


I understand that adoptees now have a legal right to know?

 
Regards,

Rex

[regross]

What other information has you wife heard in family stories.

It might help you with more of an idea of where to begin looking.

Bearing in mind that we cannot post details  incase she is still living there are some aveues you can pursue:

Could she have come from or gone to Canada, Australia or NZ ? Then shipping passenger lists might be useful. However records of her birth/marriage would still not be openly available but a death might be.

Have you looked at the local electoral rolls/phone directories etc  for the years around the dates that you have?

Even small variations in the spelling of her name will confuse the hunt so ;look at all possible variations of her surname/ other names. Time consuming but could be helpful.

regards

Robyn

[jetden]

Hello Robyn

Thank you for your response. You will see from my reply to Dawn, that a relative recently, applied for birth certificate, revealed only the name and address of the birth Mother.

I have researched GRO, Adoption Agencies,birth hospital, Court which granted the adoption and Passenger lists. Electoral Registers confirm the same address for 1948. Later ones are missing. The searches over ten years have revealed nothing. Official files from 1948 are classified as " Missing or Destroyed". I have also followed many twists and turns only to find the wrong lady!

I am trying to utilise the combined resources of forum members knowledge to assist in this difficult task of gaining any information of JOYCE EMILY TROUP

Kind regards,

Rex

[regross]

Have you looked at this information
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,421739.0.html

A new source that you may not yet know about.

Of course the name she gave may not have been her real one. She may have used her mother's maiden name.

Robyn

[jetden]

Hello Robyn,

Thank you for the "1939 Census web site address.

I have no reason to believe a false name would have been entered for the Mother on her daughter's birth certificate. This would be "supplying false information and fraud" attracting a punishable offence. Social norms in 1948 would have punished her enough.

I am awaiting positive responses from forum members, not necessarily specific details on my nominated person, but perhaps help and guidance from other adoption searches, which would help lift my confidence to overcome my feeling of complete loss of where to turn to for a lead.


Kind regards,


Rex

 

[dawnsh]

Hi Rex

Is your wife's birth certificate annotated on the far right hand side to show she was formally adopted?

Dawn

[jetden]

Hello Dawn,

Yes, on the extreme right hand edge, centred in the document height, the word "Adopted" is shown.
Immediately under the word "Adopted" is the name of the Superintendent Registrar,
Norman Tolson.

There is no doubt, at all, that my Wife was adopted, after being found under the gooseberry bush!

If you need further clarification, I shall readily respond.

Thank you again for your help.

Regards,

Rex