St. Peter's school in Dublin

[Ida Mae]

Thank you all for all the help you are giving me.  I wish I would have found this site sooner.

[shanew147]

some more details on Betts in Dublin, starting with Thom's 1850

two Bett's listed in the index -

 Mr. George Charles Betts, Sandymount Green
 W.H. Betts, teacher, Sandymount Green

the Sandymount-green section of the street listing shows :

 Mr. George Charles Betts
 William Betts , literary teacher

there is a unnamed School house listed in the Village described
as  'Female free school supported by subscription'

the same directory shows a 'St. Peters National School' between
numbers 13 & 15 Whitefriars Street, but no further details are given.

same details above are listed in 1852 Ed., except that the School is listed as no 14

there's no sign of either George or William on Sandymount green in 1877, but there is a similar Betts listings (same two first & middle name) in the 'List of Nobilty, Gentry, Traders etc' - could George have changed occupation ?

 George Charles Betts and Co., direct wine importers, tea merchants,    coffee roasters, and general dealers - 43 Grafton St, and 30 Henry St

 also a personal listing for him :
    George Charles Betts, merchant, 30 Henry St, res : Eastbourne, Terenure

I dont see a listing for him, or his house in the Terenure (Roundtown) section.

in 1880 the Henry St address is listed as both the business and,  Mrs./Charles/William Betts (presumably living 'over the shop')


Shane

[Ida Mae]

Shane
I am sure these Betts are probably related to my Betts.  My Thomas Betts had a son named George Charles, b. 1839 baptized at St. Matthew's in Dublin.  This George Charles Betts came to America in 1851.
I have been reading up on parish, townland, barony ect.  I am still confused.  In Thomas Betts marriage it states his address was OPP. St. Mary's Donnybrook.  What does OPP stand for, is St. Marys the parish and what would Donnybrook be?  If a person is listed as born in Irishtown what is the correct way to record that?  Again thank you so much for your help.

[shanew147]

The civil or Church of Ireland parish of St. Mary's includes Donnybrook, along with Irishtown, Ringsend and Sandymount.

not sure what the 'OPP.' may mean... usually I'd say opposite - maybe opposite the Church ?  St. Mary's was on Simmons-court - a road/area which leads between Donnybrook and Merrion towards Sandymount.

What church did Thomas's marriage take place ?



Shane

[Ida Mae]

Thomas was married in St. Catherine's C. of I.  I found his childrens baptisms at St. Matthew's.

[shanew147]

Thomas was married in St. Catherine's C. of I.  I found his childrens baptisms at St. Matthew's.

St. Matthews church is in Irishtown, and is in the civil parish of St. Mary's. It is described in a 1850 directory as "Royal Chapel of St. Matthew"

St. Catherine's church is in the city centre on Thomas St. (Its the parish church)


Shane

[shanew147]

some additional info on St. Matthew's - it's location is described as Ringsend in the Ecclesiastical directory.

It looks like that area was in the Civil parish of St. Mary's but the 'church' parish of St. Matthews. All the locations are close together - see this google map Donnybrook to Irishtown

This shows the route from Donnybrook, via Simmoncourt (the location of St. Mary's church) to Sandymount Green, to Irishtown - a total journey of about 4km.



Shane

[Ida Mae]

Thank you Shane, that helped alot.

[Hohenloh]

Eadaoin mentioned of St. Peter's schools: "3 in Whitefriar St and another one (not sure where - perhaps in the parish of St Peter)".  That last one may have been in Camden Row, where a parish school for St. Peter's parish was set up, either in the 18th century or early 19th century. St. Kevin's church, at that time a chapel-of-ease to St. Peter's, was also located in Camden Row.