Shaw/Byrne, Tullyorior, Co. Down

[AussieGaz]

Hi Mick

Good to get you reply. I am on 10 days leave so have spent many quality hours doing my own thing at the State Library and State Archives here in Brisbane, trying to get more information on Thomas Shaw and his early days here.

How much detail do you require on him Mick? Let me know and I will provide it.

I could send you a PM like I did before with a whole lot of details. He arrived in Sydney on 4th June 1886 on the S.S Energia from Plymouth, and is buried in Charters Towers where he passed away in August 1911.

On the subject of the book, please, please can I order one? Do you require a down payment?

Appreciate your interest.

Gary

[mickwally]

Yeah I have actually had a few days off there myself and I away at the Irish and local studies library in Armagh but you could spend weeks looking through things its very interesting.
That would be great if you could send it to me in a Pm just whatever you have and I will write a little bit about Thomas for the book. Is there any chance you might have a photo of him?
Of course you can order a book although i'm not sure how you could pay for it because you have only got the website set up and have no payment system yet. Some people have been sending us cheques. The book costs 20 pounds and it will be out in the next couple of weeks.

Mick

[AussieGaz]

Hi Mick

I will send you the information you have asked for in a PM just as soon after I have sent this off to you.

If you can give me your address in a PM, the cheque will be in the mail to you soonest. No photo I am afraid. I have asked the family, however their enthusiasm for the research of the family is much less than my own i am afraid to say.

I envy you having so much research locations and repositories at your fingertips!!

regards

Gary

[AussieGaz]

Hi Mick

You asked me about having a map of the area that the Shaw's came from. I have found a 1840 OS map of the area which shows Shawstown, Byrnestown and Kearnystown which also identifies the farms of each of the farm owners as identified on the Griffiths Valuation.

When you then produce a Google Map download of the same area, its facinating.

regards

Gaz

[mickwally]

Hi Gaz!

Yeah I actually have that map myself I got it recently from the 0S but mine is dated 1834. It's amazing to see how the countryside has changed over the years especially the fields most of the smaller fields have gone and replaced with large ones. The other thing is the huge number of houses there was but most of them have disappeared now although there is still some old ruins.

I was actually read some new info. last night in the book regarding the shaws in tullyorior which I hadn't read before but someone else had done that research you see so I really how much more there could be until you see the whole book together i can't wait.

Mick

[AussieGaz]

G/day Mick

More research been done on the Shaw's. Now that is really exciting and I cannot wait to read the book once it is published. To learn out the blue that the family name has struck an element of interest to someone else is fascinating.

Keep well and thanks for the update

Gaz

[AussieGaz]

Hi Mick

Compliments of the season to you and your family, and hope your had a good Christmas and New Year and were able to recharge the batteries.

Just wanted t let you know that I received the book during this last week - very exciting and cannot wait to start reading it.
Posted here in Aussie, so that is a little mystery in itself!!!
Thanks for letting me know about the book, and regards

Gaz

[mickwally]

Glad to hear you received your copy of the book OK I was afraid you might not get it so I sent it with someone who was going to Australia. I hope it gives you a better background knowledge of the area and tells you more about the Shaw family. The book has been a major success over here with 600 copies sold within a few weeks and we are currently waiting on our second print. Also keep an eye on our website as we are in the process of creating a database of the different families in the area and we might be able to give you more info. than we already have.

Hope to hear from you soon and any questions you have feel free to ask me.

Mick

[AussieGaz]

The Annaclone & Drumballyroney publication I received has been excellent in clarifying many aspects of my research into the Shaw side of the family. As you know in genealogical research, it’s safer in building a credible history not to take on face value all you find, and the book has helped a lot in adding credence to what I have. Having said that, the book has also succeeded in unearthing more questions!
From previous communications, John Shaw was buried in the family burying ground at Annaclone Chapel Yard according to his 1866 will. We have not identified the exact location; however the book confirms that Fr. John Mooney was the Parish priest at the time. I am sure that the investigative work to find the exact location has been at St. Coleman’s Annaclone Church and might have missed St. Mary’s Magheral Church where Fr. Mooney was PP (pg. 93). Would this make sense and if so, how could I get the names of all buried in this graveyard?
I wonder if the John Shaw mentioned in the special parish meeting of 1839 (pg. 130) might have been "our" relative taking into account his association with the church?
The flax growers of Ireland list in 1796 (pg. 234) mentions a William Shaw of Drumballyroney. Question is raised if he could be related to our family as the townland of Tullyorior in part of this parish? John Shaw was born in 1784 and we have yet to identify his parents!
Great effort to all concerned Mick, and if the second publication has much more new material, please do let me know?
By the way, I did discover the website by chance, and have put my ten cents worth in the Guestbook
Gary