SHIPPING LISTS 1901-1908

[Jacquie in Canada]

Hi Bob,

Not sure if he's yours, but there is a David Reddekopp on the Canada/US Border Crossings.  April 1909 he was going to Dallas, Oregon from Waldeck, Saskatchewan (near Swift Current).  He is listed as 23yrs old, single, Labourer, Canadian citizen, German descent, no relatives remaining in Canada.

Lesley

There is a David Reddekopp on the 1911 census in Moosejaw, Saskatchewan (subdistrict Waldeck Hamlet and Rush Lake Hamlet). It says he was single and born in Manitoba in Oct 1887. He was a boarder in the Spenst household. Here's a link to the image at Library and Archives Canada (line 25):
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1911/pdf/e002098747.pdf

I see there is also an entry for Ada Roberts on the page after the entry for David. It indicates that Ada was born in Aug 1886 in England. She was working as a chambermaid. Her immigration year is listed as 1908. Here's a link to the census image at Library and Archives Canada (line 30):
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1911/pdf/e002098748.pdf

The border crossing document that Lesley found also says that David was going to join his father Peter Reddekopp and that David was born in Gretna, Manitoba. As well, it indicates that he was in the US between 1889 and 1907.

With that in mind, there is a David Reddecapp on the 1900 US census in Dallas, Polk, Oregon. It indicates he was born in Canada in Oct 1886 and immigrated to the US in 1889. His parents' names are Peter and Anna and they were born in Russia. There were a whole bushel of kids (it says Anna was the mother of 12, 9 still alive and there were 7 listed with them of which 5 were born in Canada).

By the way, it looks like Ada and one of her children visited England. In the incoming UK passenger list database at Ancestry there is an entry for Ada Reddekopp, 39, and Agatha, 6, departed from Quebec aboard the Montroyal arriving in Southampton on 9 Jun 1927. The address they were going to stay at in England was The Norlands, Belmont Road, Westgate-on-Sea. They returned onboard the Empress of Scotland, leaving Southampton on 9 July 1927 for Quebec.

I couldn't find a passenger list entry for Ada's original voyage to North America nor could I find a border crossing for her under her maiden or married surnames.

Jacquie

[SHOTLEY50]

Hi Jacqui and Leslie,
Thanks for the information. My geography is a bit sketchy, but I assume there is an Oregon in both Canada and the USA.

If so, the David Reddekopp in 1900 Census is the one, recently found out the his second name was Emeld. Any chance of a copy of that please?
The 1909 border crossing seems correct as well.

I've had no luck with Ada's crossing from UK either. She applied for a UK passport in 1903.

Great news about Ada visiting England in 1927. The address given was where her brother John Charles Roberts was living.

Don't suppose I will find out where they were married, it at al, until more records are available.

Thanks very much for all your help, much appreciated.
Bob.l

[Jacquie in Canada]

There is only one Oregon and it's in the US but it wasn't unusual for people to give incorrect information on the census so I wouldn't discount the 1900/1911 census David as being a different David from the 1920/1930 census David over a different place of birth.

If you can PM me your email address I can send you a copy of the 1900 census and the border crossing documents.

It looks like David may have anglicized his middle name. I found an entry in the WWI Civilian Draft Registration database at Ancestry for David Arnold Reddekopp who was born 21 Oct 1887. He lists his place of birth as Dallas, Oregon.

If you want to take a chance that David and Ada did marry in Saskatchewan, you can order a marriage certificate from that time period but it's expensive - $50 Canadian. Because you don't have an exact date for the marriage you would have to order a search. A 3 year search costs $20 or $25. You need to given them permission to copy the requested document at the time they find it, if they find it during their search - which costs another $25 or $30. If you don't give them permission to copy it immediately and order it later, that costs another $50 on top of the $20 or $25 search fee. So you can either send them $50, ask for a search and give them permission to copy the marriage certicate at the time of the search or you can pay them $80 by asking for a search and then ordering it later. Here's a link to the Saskatchewan Vital Statistics page about ordering marriage certificates:
http://www.isc.ca/Default.aspx?DN=2021,2010,10,1,Documents
You may want to contact Saskatchewan Vital Statistics directly to double check the information I've provided on fees. There is an email address listed at the bottom of the page that I've provided a link to.

If you decide to go ahead after reading how much it costs, I found an entry in the Social Security Death Index for Arthur D. Reddekopp who died 24 Oct 1996 with a last residence listed as being in Saint Maries, Benewah, Idaho. His date of birth is listed as 14 Dec 1912. If the David and Ada on the 1911 census are yours then ordering a search covering the years 1911 to 1913 would find them if they married in Saskatchewan.

Jacquie

[Jacquie in Canada]

I just found entries for two of David and Ada's children in the California Death Index at Ancestry as follows:

Agatha Naomi Krall died 28 Oct 1985 in Alameda County. Her date of birth was 2 Dec 1920 and place of birth was Idaho. Her father's surname was Reddekopp and mother's maiden surname was Roberts.

Dorthea Elizabeth Perry died 6 Aug 1994 in Contra Costa County. Her date of birth was 12 Nov 1917 and place of birth was Idaho. Her father's surname was Reddekopp and mother's maiden surname was Roberts.

I also found something that might help with showing that Idaho David is the same one listed as the 1900/1911 census David. On the 1900 census, the youngest son listed is John Reddekopp. He is listed as being born in Oregon in Aug 1891. I found another Reddekopp in the WWI Civilian Draft Registration - John and he was living in Benewah, Idaho (the same county as David and Ada). Here's the information: John Reddecopp was born 11 Aug 1890 in Ayley (Oyley) Oregon.

Jacquie

[Carolyn23]

Hi Bob Roberts (SHOTLEY50)
                                      I am very interested in your entry regarding an Ada Roberts who was your great aunt!!??... I'm not totally sure if there is any connection here or not!! but a Ada Roberts born around 1877 may have come over to Boston in Lincolnshire to have her baby!!??(there is a record of a Ada Elisabeth Roberts on our 1901 census) in 1900 gave birth to my grandfather John George Roberts (illegitamate) in Boston Union Workhouse....She entered the workhouse in the archive records over here in Lincolnshire on August 3rd she gave birth to my grandfather on 25th August 1900 and then left the workhouse on the 3rd of Oct 1900 my grandfather was nearly a year to be properly registered as born or given a name!!?..  My grandfather was handed over to be cared for between 1902 and 1908 to a Robert Robinson and his wife Kate probably for a fee!? this would of been decided  by a board of governers for his own best interests if the mother was unable to care for him or emigrated!!?? I have searched constantly for any record of a death for Ada or perhaps being placed in a mental asylum or a marraige here!!?? but can not find anything!!?? My father has said he remembers my grandfather saying she went on a ship but could not take him with her!!?? So from then on he was brought up with the Robinsons and only used the name Roberts when he got married or enlisted in the navy in the 2 world wars...   The only thing I have of her is my maiden name of Roberts as my name was Carolyn Roberts.. I'm just wondering could you give me anymore information on the Ada Elisabeth Roberts who was your great aunt? Also lastly Ada was a Primitive Methodist which was a non comformist religion here thank you Carolyn

[SHOTLEY50]

Hi Carolyn,
Sorry I haven't replied to your message earlier, but been away for a few days.
Afraid I can't find any connection between our Ada Elizabeth's Roberts.Mine was born 4/8/1877 in Reading, Berkshire. Lived in Staines before going to Canada where she married David E Reddekopp and entered the USA in 1908.She returned to UK on holiday in 1927 and stayed with her brother John Charles Roberts in Westgate on Sea, Kent.
Sorry I can't be of any help.
Regards,
Bob in Oz

[judy peake]

RE; OLD Windsor Hospital. I trained at King Edward the 7th Hospital, in the 1950s. Old Windsor hospital was attached to to King Ed 7th. Old Windsor positively had  a maternity ward and other wards as well. Judy Peake Lingard