1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton

[rob.loasby]

(apologies for bouncing an old thread!)

Hi Sarah,

Isaac was an ag lab, as were every Henton I've found in Sibson.

I'm descended through William (Bn 1816, Died 1888) / William (Bn abt 1851) / Charles Henry (Bn 1889) - my grandfather.

Happy to exchange any info you need.

[sarah99]

Hi Rob

How nice to hear from you

My William Henton was an engine smith and moved from Sibson before 1846 when he married In Leicester and died in 1880 in Nottingham.

According to his marriage cert his father was Isaac Henton, Labourer - I see from the IGI that two William Henton's were baptised on the same day in Sibson. I am assuming mine had the parents Isaac and Ann - does this mean that your William was the other one - child of William and Elizabeth?

They must have been related in some way - do you know anything about it?

I lok forward to your reply

Sarah

[rob.loasby]

Sarah,

This is one of the handicaps of researching a 'common' surname! Now that you've sown the seed of doubt in my mind, I'll have to get to Leics Archives and see if the PR, and whatever else I can find, can shed any light about this conundrum, and whether there is any link between our lines (quite likely, considering how tiny the village is!).

I show 'my' William Henton as marrying 1837 in Market Bosworth to Sarah Higgs, then having 9 children between 1838 and 1854, all in Sibson: Josiah, Mary, Ann, Eliza, William, Sarah A, Alice, Charles and Harriet.

Of these, William is my direct ancestor, having moved from Sibson to Derbyshire where he's shown on the 1891 and 1901 censuses as a Gas Stoker. The 1901, though, shows his place of birth as 'Sysin' or 'Sysen', which has been interpreted by Ancestry.co.uk as Syston when it clearly is not. The 1891 gets a bit closer (Sibstone).

[sarah99]

So Rob, you think your William is the son of Isaac and Ann too? I suppose that as your William was married in 1837 there is no marriage certificate for him. This is getting very intriguing

As Sibson is such a small village the two Williams are connected - I'm going to check out numbers of Hentons in the 1841 and 51 census and see if that reveals any clues and get back to you.

Sarah

[sarah99]

Hi again - I've found an Isaac Henton in Atherstone in 1851 but he's a retired tailor - figure that one out!

[rob.loasby]

Hi again - I've found an Isaac Henton in Atherstone in 1851 but he's a retired tailor - figure that one out!

That one is confusing, given his age as 70 would put him in the right time frame.

I see him also on the 1841 residing with William Henton, Tailor, age 70, giving William a birth date somewhere around 1771. Possibly an older brother?

BMD shows Isaac's death as -
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[sarah99]

I'm not convinced he's the right Isaac - as why would a tailor be described as a labourer on a marriage certificate?

I can't find Isaac on the 1841 census - can you point me in the right direction please?

[Pinetree]

Rob/Sarah,

Just had to join in this thread because I am also descended from William Henton and Sarah Higgs 

My connection is through their daughter Ann that married Joseph Barnes in Kingsbury Warks on 12 October 1865.  I'm not sure that I can sort out the 2 Williams but mine seems to have been a labourer.

Rob, I have a copy the younger William's birth certificate, he was born on 5th December 1850 and this confirms that his mother's maiden name was Higgs.

I have not gone back much further with this line but would be happy to help if I can 

Pinetree

[rob.loasby]

Rob/Sarah,

Just had to join in this thread because I am also descended from William Henton and Sarah Higgs 

My connection is through their daughter Ann that married Joseph Barnes in Kingsbury Warks on 12 October 1865.  I'm not sure that I can sort out the 2 Williams but mine seems to have been a labourer.

Rob, I have a copy the younger William's birth certificate, he was born on 5th December 1850 and this confirms that his mother's maiden name was Higgs.

I have not gone back much further with this line but would be happy to help if I can 

Pinetree

Hi Cousin!

I'd love a copy of that certificate if you could scan it. I'll PM you my Email address.

I've still to get to the Records Office to try to sort this one out but based on what Sarah has said, I'm doubtful that this Isaac is the father of 'our' William (Bap 21 May 1816). I want to track back another generation or two and see who his father was. I've a feeling that there will be a connection in there, somewhere. I know that IGI shows Isaac & Ann, but need to see the PR for myself! The only Isaac on the IGI film for Sibson was bap 29 Dec 1748, which would make him 68 when William was born - unfeasible to expect him to be William's father without further checking, but he might be Isaac's father.

My files show Ann & Joseph as having four sons - Samuel, Joseph, William and Alfred, but haven't followed the line any further. If there is anything you would be willing to share, I can swap for my line!

I also realise that I didn't answer Sarah's question about where Isaac was in 1841. Details are:

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