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Re: Buckinghamshire, southern part. Barlow, Moore, Hobbs, Janes, Munday, & others.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 June 10 15:22 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Sorry he is not one of my Janes, and cannot find him on 1881 or 1891 census, so if he did return to England, possibly he changed his name.  I cannot find his application for a passport, to leave England, but the site I use does not cover 1850, but it does cover the rest of 1850's. I did find a Henry N Janes in 1856, I don't suppose that is helpful to you?
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 June 10 06:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you every much for trying to find him

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 June 10 06:46 BST (UK) »
I might have found a bit more on Jabez Janes family but no more on Jabez. I think his father was William Janes and his mother was Leah Parslow. There were 8 children, Alfred, Cornelius, Eliza, Elizabeth, Jonathan, Lydia & Mary Ann all born Loosley Row Princes Risborough Buckinghamshire. Does anyone have any info on the family? :) I wonder if anymore of the family came to Australia?

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 June 10 16:38 BST (UK) »
I might have found a bit more on Jabez Janes family but no more on Jabez. I think his father was William Janes and his mother was Leah Parslow. There were 8 children, Alfred, Cornelius, Eliza, Elizabeth, Jonathan, Lydia & Mary Ann all born Loosley Row Princes Risborough Buckinghamshire. Does anyone have any info on the family? :) I wonder if anymore of the family came to Australia?

Hello again,
Did some more digging for you and found a little .
William & Leah Lived in loosley Row, Princes Risborough. William a Sawyer born around 1801 in Lacey Green & Leah a Lacemaker, around same time in Loosley Row.
Children with them-
Jonathan born 1828, Lydia 1832, Mary Ann 1835, Cornelius 1839.
1851 William & Leah also have 2 grandchildren with them- Celina Ridley born 1844 in Speen, & Amos Ridgley 1846 in Loosley Row. These are Elizabeth's children as she married Jesse Ridgley in 1843. No Jabez with them.
1871 William is a widower living with Henry James born around 1830, a grocer & Baker, & Henry's wife Mary, in Prices Risborough. Leah died  1870, William himself  died 1872.
In 1841 there is a Henry James also at same address, Jabez born 1831, Ann 1833, Caroline 1836 all born & living in Lacey Green, with adults Wiliam & Sophia Janes both born around 1806, he in Lacey green Sophia in High Wycombe. 1841 census does not give relationship, although the most likely is that they are all their children. So do not know the relationship between Henry & your William, there are quite a few Janes families in that area, so they may well all be connected.

Cornelius as adult.
1871 & 1881 living in Loosley Row.
married 1863 to Ann Bagnall born 1843 in Princes Risborough. they had 5 children, Albert 1863, Ruth 1867, Frederick 1867, George 1871 & Harry 1873 all in loosley Row. Ann died in 1875.
Cornelius remarried 1878 to Sarah Langstone born 1847 loosley Row. Cannot find any trace of the family after 1881, so possibly they did emigrate.

Jonathan Janes as adult.
a sawyer married a Mary born 1829 in Haddenham, Aylesbury. The best match for a marriage is to a Mary Steel, but that is in 1853 Kensington, London.
Their children were Lucy 1858, Frances (female) 1860 & Hannah 1863 all born in Prince Risborough.
1871 they were living Grubbings, Lacey Green.
1881 Frances was a domestic servant, living in at Beech Grove, Tring, Hertfordshire, Hannah & Lucy untraced.
Frances then married Joshua Brackley in 1886 Wycome. Joshua born 1856 Buckland, Aylesbury. He was a grocer & carrier, although by 1911 just a carrier.
They had children Florence 1887 & Clara 1889, both born Buckland, Clara became a domestic servant. Then sons Alfred 1894 & Gordon 1998, also in Buckland & Alfred became a woodman.
1891 they lived the Grocers shop, Little Twye, Buckland, Aylesbury, 1901 & 1991 living Buckland Common.
they als0 had Joshus Niece Annie Brackley & Nephew William Brackley, living with them.
Hope this helps.


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Re: Buckinghamshire, southern part. Barlow, Moore, Hobbs, Janes, Munday, & others.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 June 10 09:09 BST (UK) »
Hello Debbie & Vita,

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but I don't think your Jabez is the one who was the son of William Janes and Leah Parslow.   

I'm distantly related to this family through the Parslow connection and the info I've got on Jabez is that he married Elizabeth Ward in Princes Riborough on 9/12/1843.   Elizabeth died and he then married Ann Biggs on 24/12/1848.    I found both these marriages in the Princes Risborough parish records.

Jabez and Ann had four children and can be found on all the census records from 1851 to 1881, although sometimes mistranscribed.

Jane

   

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Re: Buckinghamshire, southern part. Barlow, Moore, Hobbs, Janes, Munday, & others.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 June 10 10:46 BST (UK) »
I've been having another look at the census records for the Princes Risborough area and have found another Jabez Janes.   This one was born c. 1831 and was the son of William and Sophia.   William Janes and Sophia Chilton were married in Princes Risborough on 6/6/1827.

Do you think this might possibly be the one you are looking for?

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 12 June 10 23:03 BST (UK) »
Dear Debbie,

The Jabez born 1831 was a Sawyer, in1859 he married Ellen Cartwright, daughter of John & Maria.
Ellen was born in Little Hampden.
Now I can find no trace of Jabez, Ellen or her parents in 1861, but can trace them all on both the 1851 & 1871 census. However Jabez must of been around in 1859 if he married in 1859, so unless he went back and forth to Australia, (and considering how long the journey took back then, it is unlikely), it does not look like he is the right one either. So the mystery thickens, as to who the parents were of this Jabez Janes that went to Australia were. Do you know for sure his place of birth?

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 14 June 10 11:25 BST (UK) »
Dear Jane & Vita, thanks for all your information, this gets more & more complicated. I have contacted another family member & she is pretty sure Jabez was born in 1821 or 1822. If she is right he doesnt match any of them. I am still going to try and follow up your leads in case my relative is wrong. Thanks again Deb

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« Reply #17 on: Monday 14 June 10 11:28 BST (UK) »
Now someone is saying Jabez may have been born in Hampshire, is this close to Buckinghamshire? I am not sure as living in Australia it is hard to tell how close these shires are to each other.