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J.J.
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Re: Malvina Hose - a mystery
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Reply #18 on:
Wednesday 09 June 10 20:57 BST (UK) »
It is too bad that Malvina's birth St. John's / St. Johns was miss-interpreted on the two census as it is always nice to see place names, rather than generic "America" or "Canada", although the date is too early for our databases to find. The one 1841 census also indicates "ind." am wondering if this denotes "Indian" or native ancestry.
I suppose the father might have been military - British army in NFLD
http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Units_of_the_British_Army_Serving_in_Newfoundland
But there were also cod fleets and stone merchants travelling between NFLD & Guernsey
I just realized Sharp may not be her last name? Was any clue on her death cert?
J.J.
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mongoose2
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Re: Malvina Hose - a mystery
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Reply #19 on:
Wednesday 09 June 10 21:54 BST (UK) »
The ind meant of independent means as in she was recieving her husband John Hose's pension from the Royal Navy. I have a copy of the application from the National Archives.
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Re: Malvina Hose - a mystery
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Wednesday 09 June 10 23:25 BST (UK) »
Sorry of course I should have known that...
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mongoose2
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Re: Malvina Hose - a mystery
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Reply #21 on:
Wednesday 08 January 20 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Belatedly an update
Malvina (Malvener) Jane Sharp marries John Hose RN in 1823 (as John William Danson Hose is born same year I suspect there was a pressing need) in Grace Harbour, Newfoundland.
Still have no idea whether Malvina was born there or just lived there.
John Hose a Lieutenant in the RN had been commissioned to survey the Newfoundland coastline and used that as a base.
John died in debtor's prison in 1834 (Bodmin Gaol) Malvina remained in Jersey/ Guernsey with the children
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Re: Malvina Hose - a mystery
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Wednesday 08 January 20 23:51 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if you have all this...
John William Danson Hose Chr: 11 June 1824 Shaldon-St-Nicholas, Devon, England
father: John Malvina Hose occ. Lt. R.N. mother: Jane Sharp Hose abode Shaldon.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9Q5-Q8BW?i=118&cc=2515875&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ2M3-7NDV
Malvina Adelaide (Rose) Christened July 20, 1828 Marston, Norfolk, England
Parents John Rose & Malvina his occ: Boatman...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-R6WL-4?i=182&cc=1823613&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A27CC-FDV
Stanton Lambert Fox Hose Baptism 1834 ( Said to be born Sept. 1831? or a bad/thin 3? )
John & Malvina Hose abode: Maurice Town Devon
Directly under him is another christening for Melvina Adelaide! ( Said to be born July 18, 1828
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-Q7S9-WR?i=260&cc=1804330&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKC99-T2N
Stanton Hose c. 1834
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCQJ-7XD
— in 1853 Merchant Seaman — Great Britain & it appears he won an award as "Danton F Hose"
Different publications...but appears John may not have been given proper credit for 2 yrs surveying in NFLD!!! Really sad that he died in Debtor's prison.
Lt. John Hose -Mar. 1 1821- Snap- NFLD
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ot3/
H.M. brig Snap, under Lieutenant Hose, was in 1821 sent out for surveying service to the same part of the world ; on her arrival on the North American Station, Lieutenant Frederick Bullock appears to have succeeded to the command.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ot4/
Mr. Holbrook was relieved in command of HM Brig Snap by Lieutenant John Hose a month after commissioning her in 1821; Hose was probably the first to continue work over the ice in winter but his work was subsequently published under the name of Lt Frederick Bullock who relieved him in May 1823.
https://books.google.ca/books?id=ZFQd6dLZlKQC&q=%22Hose+was+probably+the+first+to+continue+work%22
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mongoose2
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Re: Malvina Hose - a mystery
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Reply #23 on:
Thursday 09 January 20 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Malvina (Malvener) married in 1823 Grace Harbour NFLD on the transcript it stated that John was from Eng and Malvina from St Johns. viewing the vitals from NFLD St Johns (bearing in mind a possible birthdate of 1804 there seems to be an issue as the register from 1803-1811 is missing. There is a possible death in 1820 for the wife of Richard Sharpe in childbirth. No other Sharpes are mentioned as far as I can see
http://ngb.chebucto.org/
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