Northamptonshire Regiment 1898

[Stebie9173]

Well, there is good news and bad news.

The bad news is that not many of the service records for the earlier soldiers survive.

The good news is that William Lingard's seems to have survived

WO 97/625/58     
 
WO  Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
  Division within WO  Records of the Royal Chelsea and Kilmainham Hospitals
    WO 97  Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents
      Subseries within WO 97  1760-1854: discharge papers arranged by regiment, but each described at item level. (WO 97/1-1271)

        WO 97/625  48th Foot: Lob - McG
Scope and content WILLIAM LINGUARD
Born KIRKHAM, Lancashire
Served in 48th Foot Regiment
Discharged aged 30
Covering dates 1806-1814

Availability Open Document, Open Description, Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30 years, This series is currently undergoing digitisation. Access to certain pieces will be disrupted over the next 3 years and advance ordering of this series is not possible during this time. Please check with us that the pieces that you wish to consult are not affected before you travel. 



These are microfilm records at the National Archives. They are currently being digitised for online publication on FindMyPast, but these earlier records don't go online until this time next year (April 2011).

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=-3961119&CATLN=7&accessmethod=5

You may be able to request a copy via the National Arhives website (see the "Request This" button on the above link)

William Linguard would have served in the 48th during the Peninsular Wars, but came out of the Regiment before the Battle of Waterloo took place in 1815 - The Regiment was not at Waterloo in any case. Barring illness or disciplinary issues he would have probably been at the Battle of Talavera - so he would have probably have been one of the men who earned the Regimental Battle Honour of Talavera that was worn on the Regimental Cap Badge for the next 150 years.
 
 
 
Steve.

[cornish milly]

I am utterly amazed, I cannot thank you enough.   That information is amazing, you have made my day!  I will try the archives and see if I get anywhere.  I will let you know if I manage to get his record.
Best wishes

[cornish milly]

OK I give up!  I have filled in two forms now to request someone to look at the file I need, the first one was for the estimate and received a reply to say it would have to be done by paying for a researcher.  I then filled in another form on the research services web page, our paid services, How to contact us, online form at the bottom of the page, record/research enquiry.  I received an email back today telling me to fill in the research services form...... where is it.......

[Carrick]

Hoping you might be able to help with my search for details of my grandfather William Campbell McKay who enlisted with the 48th in 1871 as a 14 yr old and was discharged in 1895. From the records I have found in the NA, he was a musician for some of his time. Children born in Ireland, Aldershot, Warley and India. I would like to know where and when he was in India as he made a butterfly collection in India which is now in the Colchester Museum, perhaps you have some details that might help ?
many thanks

[Stebie9173]

Usually the dates of overseas servive are on one of the pages of his service record, but I can tell you when the 48th were in the various locations. I don't have a lot of information for the period apart from what appears in the Regiment History:

- 5 February 1872 : Embarked from Malta to India aboard H.M.S. Crocodile, arriving at Bombay on 26th February 1872. From Bombay the battalion moved inland to the garrison at Bellary.

- End of 1875 : Moved to Cannanore.

- November 1880: Embarked home to the UK aboard H.M.T. Euphrates, and went into Home barracks at Tipperary on 24 November 1880. Whilst the Regiment was based at Tipperary, they had detachments at Cahir, Tralee and Clonmel. This was during the period of Fenian Brotherhood activity and the Regiment was utilised on both protection duties where people had allegedly been threatened and on baillif escorts.

- 9 November 1882 : Transferred to Curragh

- 30 September 1884 : Home to the UK and were stationed at Preston, with detachments at Fleetwood and at Castletown on the isle of Man.

- 27 October 1886 : Moved to Aldershot.

- Summer 1888: Moved to Warley with a temporary summer detachment at the Tower of London (also repeated in 1889 and 1890)

- Moved to Aldershot on 29 November 1890.

- 4 October 1892: Embarked back to India aboard H.M.S. Malabar arriving at Bombay via Malta, Port Said and Suez on 1 November 1892.

- 19 November 1892 : Arrival in Barracks at Bangalore.

- 11 December 1895 : Moved to Secunderabad (there was also a detachment at Wellington).


The 48th remained in India until 1911.



Steve.

[Carrick]

Hi Steve,
Thank you for this information about the 48th. My grandfather joined them in 1871, I have his regimental records, but they don't give me details such as the ships that transported them or where in India they were stationed. I have Aunts and Uncles born in Ireland, Preston, Aldershot, Warley (where my Dad was born) and Bangalore, so having some detail to fill the story is great. As far as I can tell my Grandfather was not involved in any battles, but he did bring back a butterfly collection from his last time in India. He discharged in 1895.
Trevor

[Stebie9173]

You are right, the 48th / 1st Battalion Northamptonshire Regiment were not involved in any battles or campaigns during his time with them (the next campaign was actually just after he left - in late 1897 in the Tirah on the North West Frontier of India).

The 58th / 2nd Battalion Northamptonshire Regiment were involved in both the Zulu War and the 1st Boer War but the places that William was known to be at confirm that he was 48th pretty much all the way through his career.


Steve.

[Carrick]

Hi Steve,
From reading my grandfathers military records it looks like he was appointed as a musician in 1877, but it does not tell us what instrument he played (and family stories don't tell us either), do you have any suggestions on how we might find anything about his history in the regiment out?
thanks,
Trevor

[nick aus]

Hi All,

Was wondering if anyone could help me find out about my greatgrandfather James Rial. All I know is that he was in 1st battalion and is on the Tirah medal roll, #3959.

Any information would be most appreciated.