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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 20 January 10 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Steve,

Keep sending those facts - am off out to see my 75 year old father later, he is going to love the photos!

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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 20 January 10 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Assuming that Lance-Sergeant S Pearsall of the 1st Northamptons in 1896 = S J Pearsall of the Sherwood Foresters = Sidney James Pearsall Yeoman of the Guard, here are my notes on him:

Sidney James Pearsall

- Born approx. 1873.
- Probably served in the Northamptonshire Regiment from 1890, latterly as L/Sgt. (1896) and Quartermaster-Sergeant.
- Enlisted approx. 1890
- L/Sgt. in "A" Company in 1896 Secunderabad photos.
- Entitled to the India General Service Medal with three Clasps for Tirah 1897-98, Samana 1897 & Punjab Frontier 1897-98.
- Does not appear in battalion casualty list for the Tirah Campaign, late 1897.
-  Appointed Quartermaster & Honorary Lt. with 10th Bn. Sherwood Foresters, date ??. (Possibly in 1914)
- Married in Tottenham to Amy Eva Johnson, 2-8-1899 whilst still a serving soldier.
- To France with 10th, Sherwood Foresters, 14-7-1915.
- Mentioned in Despatches as Honorary Lt. & Quartermaster, London Gazette 15-6-1916.
- Promoted Hon. Captain & Quartermaster, 12-9-1917.
- Mentioned in Despatces as Q/M & Capt. with 10th S.F.,  London Gazette 5-6-1919.
- Listed as holding the M.B.E. as of relinquishment of comission in 1920.
- Relinquished commission and retain the rank of Hon. Captain, 10-2-1920.
- Transferred to the Regular Reserve of Officers, date ??
- Per London Gazette - "Having attained the age limit of liability to recall ceases to belong to the Res. of Off., 3-3-1927."
- Served with the Yeoman of the Guard from 1921 to 1959.
- Awarded the Royal Victorian Medal (Silver) as a Yeoman of the Guard in the Queen's Birthday Honours,  12-6-1958.
- Address per MIC: 26 West St., Carshalton, Surrey (medals claim 1920)
- ALSO MBE ?? and/or OBE.
- Died in Surrey on 21-6-1961, age 88.


The following pictures are of him in first the Sergeants Mess photo (on the right hand side, middle) and in the photo of "A" Company.




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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 20 January 10 19:58 GMT (UK) »
A picture of Frederick William Pearsall of "B" Company with cat.... aw, bless...


It appears that he was killed by Afridi tribesmen in the Maidan Valley whilst on picquet duty (outer guard) at Arhanga Pass. The armed camps of the British Army were plagued by the tribesmen firing down into the camps at night, but never presenting an army to actually fight. How times DON'T change....


Incidentally Lieutenant Gifford in the picture met the same fate as Fred Pearsall being killed by a long range bullet whilst in camp at night. He was killed by a gunshot to the cheek on 6-11-1897.


Steve.
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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 20 January 10 20:02 GMT (UK) »
Stebie,
I can't find an LG entry for the MID either.

Steve,

Here are the basic GRO references for John Humber:

Birth
Either March Qu. 1844; Dorchester 8 60
Or March Qu. 1845; Dorchester 8 61

1st Marriage.
Dec Qu. 1864; Honiton 5b 53
Emma Sarah Palmer

2nd Marriage.
Sept Qu. 1892; Aston 6d 419
Harriett Sarah Craddock

Emma Senior’s Death.
Dec Qu. 1891; Atherstone 6d 263. Age 48

Death.
Dec Qu. 1919; Stratford 6d 785. Age 75

Harriet’s Death.
March Qu. 1921; Stratford 6d 938. Age 71

Census details to follow.

Phil
Sussex: Satcher (Hamsey) and Gatton (East Grinstead)
Leicestershire: Pratt
South Wales: Evans (Neath)
Poland: Gonet, Deren

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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 20 January 10 20:06 GMT (UK) »
1851, 1861 and 1871 Census:

1851 Census.
HO 107; Piece 1857; Page6.

Owermoigne Dorset
Charles Humber, Head, 28, Ag Lab, born Kingston Russell Dorset
Elizabeth, wife, 25, born Stoke Abbott Dorset
John, 7, born Kingston Russell

1861 Census.
RG9/1348; Folio 109; Page 19.

Owermoigne, Dorset
Charles Humber, Head, 40, Ag Lab, born Kingston Russell Dorset
Elizabeth, wife, 34, born Stoke Abbott Dorset
John, 17, born Kingston Russell
Alfred G, 7, born Owermoigne
Henry, 4, born Owermoigne
Robert, 1, born Kingston Russell

1871 Census.
RG/10/2013; Folio 75; Page 9.

Cottage, Frampton, Dorset
John, Head, 27, Gamekeeper, born Kingston Russell Dorset
Emma S, wife, 28, born Payhembury Devon
Harry, 5, born Bridport Dorset
Frank C, 1, born Claverton Somerset
Sussex: Satcher (Hamsey) and Gatton (East Grinstead)
Leicestershire: Pratt
South Wales: Evans (Neath)
Poland: Gonet, Deren

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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 20 January 10 20:10 GMT (UK) »
1881 and 1891 Census:

1881 Census.
RG11/869; Folio 103; Page 25.

Park Cottage, Lullingstone, Kent
John, Head, married, 37, Gamekeeper, born Kingston Russell Dorset
Emma, wife, 38, born Payhembury Devon
Harry, 13, born Bridport Dorset
Frank C, 11, born Claverton Somerset
Elizabeth, 8, born Hampton Dorset
Alice J, 6, born Maiden Bradby Wilts
Mary K, 3, born Maiden Bradby (Kate M in 1891)

1891 Census.
RG12/2442; Folio 63; Page 1.

Bramcote, Polesworth, Warwicks.
John Humber, Head, married, 47, Gamekeeper, born Kingston Russell Dorset
Emma S, wife, 48, born Payhembury Devon
John, 9, born Lullingstone Kent
Emma M, 7, born Withyham Sussex
Kate M, 13, born Yarnfield Somerset
Alice J, 16, born Yarnfield
Elizabeth, 18, born Frampton Dorset
Sussex: Satcher (Hamsey) and Gatton (East Grinstead)
Leicestershire: Pratt
South Wales: Evans (Neath)
Poland: Gonet, Deren

Forest Row: War Memorial and Camp WW1
Lewisham War Memorials & WW1 Graves

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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday 20 January 10 20:11 GMT (UK) »
1901 Census and 1911 Census Index:

1901 Census.
RG13/3204; Folio 63; Page 10.

Donnington Hall, Castle Donnington, Leics.
John Humber, Head, 57, Gamekeeper, born Kingston Russell Dorset
Harriet S, wife, 51, born Ladywood, Warwickshire

NB Emma M Humber (age 17) is with Harriett’s 80 year old mother, Harriett S Craddock at 69 Camp Hill, Aston, Warwicks.
See RG13/2857; Folio 152; Page 16.

1911 Census Index.
Harriet Sarah Humber, 61, residing at Stratford on Avon, Warwicks
John Humber, 67, residing at Stratford on Avon

There is also an Annie Julia Humber, age 11 coming up with the search.
Possibly born Sept Qu. 1899 Holborn 1b 687

Phil

Sussex: Satcher (Hamsey) and Gatton (East Grinstead)
Leicestershire: Pratt
South Wales: Evans (Neath)
Poland: Gonet, Deren

Forest Row: War Memorial and Camp WW1
Lewisham War Memorials & WW1 Graves

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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 20 January 10 20:27 GMT (UK) »
This is the 1901 Census entry I think is Thomas Senior:

1901 Census
RG 13/2572; Folio 87; Page 8

86 North St, Stafford
Thomas Pearsall, Head, 60, Cashier CC (County Council?), born Kidderminster Worcs
Elizabeth S, wife, 52, born Islington London
Ethel J G, single, 24, School Teacher, born India
Evelyn, single, 23, Cookery Teacher, born India
Gertrude O M, 13, born Stafford
Ivy W H, 11, born Stafford

Phil
Sussex: Satcher (Hamsey) and Gatton (East Grinstead)
Leicestershire: Pratt
South Wales: Evans (Neath)
Poland: Gonet, Deren

Forest Row: War Memorial and Camp WW1
Lewisham War Memorials & WW1 Graves

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Re: Northamptonshire Regiment 1898
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 21 January 10 00:32 GMT (UK) »
Having rechecked the 1911 Census there are:

PEAREALL THOMAS PERCIVAL HUTCHINSON, born approx 1871, age 40

PEAREALL HARRY PERCIVAL JOHN Male, Born approx 1902, age 9 (My note: John on the passenger list?)



Both are resident at Devonport, and on a Military Census.


The others are under the correct names:

PEARSALL ALICE JANE, Female, born approx 1877, age 34

PEARSALL ALICE EVA, Female, born approx 1900, age 11  (My note: Eva on the passenger list?)  

PEARSALL EDNA KATE, Female, born approx 1908, age 3 (My note: Kate on the passenger list?)

Again, all three are listed as at Devonport (Military Census).


I can't see Birth records for Harry Percival John or Alice Eva in the UK BMD records, so perhaps he was back abroad until after 1902 ?

There is a birth record for an Edna Kate in 1907.

Name: Edna Kate Pearsall, Year of Registration: 1907, Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep, District: Colchester, County: Essex, Volume: 4a, Page: 805


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The 2nd Battalion of the Northamptonshire Regiment were based at Colchester during the period May 1904 (upon return from South Africa) to February 1911 (when sailed to Malta to swop Empire garrison duty with 1st battalion).

With Colchester being a garrison town we can't rule out that he may have been with the Army Ordnance Corps by then, however.

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Extract from the 1911 Army List (Army Ordnance Corps section):
Researching : Beeby (Titchmarsh / Peterborough), Brooksbank (Peterborough), Northamptonshire Regiment 1914-1918