Northamptonshire Regiment 1898

[stevetewk65]

Hi Phil,

I know very little about Thomas sr other than he was in Malta in 71 and when jr married in 1898 he is shown as a 'clerk', so one must presume he had left the army by this time, but then as he would have to be at least mid-50's (I don't know his birth date) I guess that is obvious.

John's re-marraige?! Now that IS a tease! I have Emma still being around in 1901 but gone in 1911, I had no idea he re-married! To date, I have only looked at his household in 81 and 'followed' him by way of his name and location until 1911. So any census info would be great, thanks.

I still don't see that Alice had a sister Emma though, she isn't mentioned in 81 - are you sure?

And again! Thanks for the TPH Gazette link. So if he retired in 1920, does that mean he was active in WW1? Also,  Royal Army Ord....um....part of Northants still or has he changed?!

Your continuing interest and help is incredible and very much appreciated, thank you. 

Steve

[Stebie9173]

The P/ pre-fix denotes that his file (at least his officers papers and probably all of them) were not transferred over to the National Archives with those for men discharged prior to 1921. This is mostly due to later post-WW1 service. Thus the MOD should still hold his papers. These can be accessed only by proven next-of-kin/descendants :

See:

http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/army.html


A couple London Gazette entries (I see Phil has given you the first one):


LG 28-10-1920

War Office,
28th October, 1920.
REGULAR FORCES.

ROYAL ARMY ORDNANCE CORPS.

A.C.O. & Capt. T. P. H. Pearsall retires on retired pay. 29th Oct. 1920.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/32103/supplements/10399


REGULAR ARMY RESERVE OF OFFICERS.

ROYAL ARMY ORDNANCE CORPS.

The undermentioned, having attained the age limit of liability to recall, cease to belong to the Bes. of Off.: —

O.E.O., 3rd Cl., & Capt. T. P. H. Pearsall. 14th Mar. 1926.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/33173/pages/3969



Steve.

[Stebie9173]

A Col Sgt I Pearsall appears in a group of photographs taken of the 1st Battalion in Secunderabad in November 1896.

He appears in a picture of the Colour sergeants (part of "I" Company) - attached.


He also appears in a picture of the Colour Party (Regiment Flag bearers) along with L/Sgt S J Pearsall and Cpl F W Pearsall !!

A Sergeant P Pearsall appears in a "Sergeants Mess" group, along with L/Sgt S J Pearsall again.

Col. Sgt. P Pearsall appears then in an "I" Company group, and S Pearsall again appears in an "A" Company group.


Whilst they seem to be in confusion over initials, there were only 3 Pearsalls on the Tirah medal roll (2685 S J Pearsall, No. 3680 F W Pearsall and 2275 T P Pearsall) so I strongly suspect the "I" Pearsall and the "P" Pearsall are both Thomas.


T P H Pearsall's number of 2275 would date to about mid-1887, I think, but I'll have a further check.



Steve.

[stevetewk65]

Wow Steve!! thanks for both posts.

Not sure where you got 2275 from but I DO have that number for him on his daughters birth certificate!

Steve

[Stebie9173]

From here:

http://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/india_1895_rolls/northamptonshire_regiment_3.htm


Very handy....


Do you know if the other two Pearsalls were related to him ?


Steve.

[forester]

Another one answers Sandy's call !!!!

Emma was not born untill 1884, therefore first appears on the 1891 census.

1901 she is living with John's second wife, Harriett Craddock (widowed by now) in Aston.
RG13/2857; Folio 152; Page 16.

I can't see her in 1911, but think the 1907 marriage may be her.

Phil

[Stebie9173]

Just for consideration, the Northamptonshire Regiment Flickr site has a man that may be T Pearsall or T Pearson. At the moment it could be either 2275 Col. Sgt. T Pearsall or 2667 Col. Sgt. F. Pearson to my reckoning.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/northampton_museum/3004164769/


Steve.

[stevetewk65]

Thanks Steve - i have seen the medal role before but not noticed the 2275 on it.

Dont't know if they are relatives - must be worth a punt though!

[Stebie9173]

I've had a double check through the Secunderabad groups and the Sgt T Pearson on the flickr site is shown as Sgt (Orderly Room Corporal) T Pearson and is a different man.


Red Herring, there I'm afraid.


Steve.