Northamptonshire Regiment 1898

[Stebie9173]

I have had a look through the Shirley family, and I think I have identified a few of the family as soldiers serving through WW1. I don't have time today to put everything together, but the I thought I would update you on the ones I posted above. Some are family to John William Shirley, others are not.


As posted above:

1. Albert Shirley, of 122 Loyd Road, Northampton, a Private in the 1st Battalion of the Northamptonshire Regiment. Noted as "Wounded & died in hospital in France"

He is listed on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission as: Private, No. 9355, of the 1st Battalion of the Northamptonshire Regiment - died on 10th December 1914 and buried at  Grave No. I. B. 20. in BOIS GUILLAUME COMMUNAL CEMETERY near Rouen. He is shown as the son of Mr. and Mrs. Shirley, of Queen Street, Upper Weedon, Northants; husband of R. F., Shirley, of 11, Queen's Road, Northampton.

This is the cousin of John William Shirley, son of William Shirley's younger brother George.


2. Alfred George Shirley, of 65 Ivy Road, "72 Army Ordnance Corps Tipner" (no idea what the 72 & Tipner refer too!)

Serving at the Royal Navy Ordnance Stores at Tipnor, Portsmouth (Room 72?)

I think this is probably an unrelated Alfred George Shirley RN, born 4-5-1891 at Saltash, Cornwall – he is serving overseas in the Royal Navy in 1911 Census.


3. Arthur Shirley, of 24 Ambush Street, a Corporal in the 5th Battalion of the Northamptonshire Regiment

This is Arthur SHIPLEY, Corporal, No. 20698 Northamptonshire Regiment and Labour Corps No. 161940, and is unrelated.



4. James Henry Shirley of 7 Weston Place, a Private in the 3rd/4th Battalion of the Northamptonshire Regiment (a training battalion in the UK)

James Henry Shirley was transferred to the Leicestershire Regiment thereafter (No. 33279) and later rejoined the 4th Northamptons after the war (No. 5877062).

I think this is probably James Henry Shirley, b. 1878 – son of George Shirley, and brother of Albert Shirley, above.


5. John Shirley, of 14 Overstone Road, a Sergeant in the Northamptonshire Regiment Territorials (4th battalion)

The 1918 Absent Voters list describes him as No. 225060 a Sergeant in the 4th Reserve (Training) Battalion of the Northamptonshire Regiment - he is still at 14 Overstone Road.

I think this is probably John Shirley, born at Bethnal Green, circa 1888 - a whole family by the name of Shirley moved up from Bethnal Green to Northampton in the 1900s. This man appears to be from that family.


6. Thomas William Shirley, of 110 Loyd Road (Attested under the Derby Scheme but not yet called up - Group 38)

I'm still not sure on this man. Group 38 was for married men born in 1886 who were due for call up on 29-5-1916. Group 38 is consistent with William Shirley, the third son of George Shirley. However, that doesn't explain where the "Thomas" part has come from!


I will post more later, probably tomorrow.



Steve.

[nesslay]

that is so cool . how am I ever gonna repay for your time and effort . there arnt many out there that would help a stranger again thank you so much .
              ness x

[nesslay]

there are alot of William I'n the Shirley line .
could Thomas be passed down from my gggrandma family but then that's a huge can as she was a Ellen bunting then I'n census she was bunting Mason cause she married then I haven't a clue her husband must have died then she married my gggrandfather William Shirley . so her surname then became bunting Mason Shirley .I hope this helps rather than hinders . ness

[nnlad]

William was a brother of James Henry and Albert. There was also another brother George

[nesslay]

William was a brother of James Henry and Albert. There was also another brother George

thanks for your reply . im sorry it is rather late but iv only just come back from a holiday . and as iv lost my iphone that had all my research on iv only just managed to get all my emails .

[nnlad]

There were also two sisters, Mary and Lily.
These were the children of George, William's brother. William it would seem took his family to Pitsford via Naseby.
They had the folowing children:Kate, John, Jane, Harry, Frank William, Susan and one other daughter.

[nesslay]

nnlad , you are quite correct on that fact . there was kate elizabeth  my grest aunt. john william he served in the northants regiment in 1898 for the full 22 years . he is my great uncle , frank william . harry , susan is my ggrandnan. Alice who was next and she died in 1975 there was also a bertie who was the final child fom william and ellen , ellen died in her forties all of which lived in pitsford .
quick question have you been reserching the shirley line ........................... ! :-) 

[trooper2404]

hello im new here

My ancester Joseph Winterton was in the 1st and 2nd northampton regiment,in the 1891 census he was in aldershot,he married in 1895 in colchester,the same year beginning of 1895 he had a son born on Jersey.

I can`t find him in the 1901 census.

I like to find out more about where he served,how long he served,could anyone give me some direction please.

On his wedding certificate,it says he was a corpral in the 2nd northampton regiment,no number.

Thank you