POTTER in South Australia

[sparrett]

This article will give you a little biography of LAZARUS

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/11744409?searchTerm=%22lazarus+potter%22

Sue

[cando]

There is a Lazarus POTTER b.c1839 with parents Joseph and Hannah on the 1841 census in Cambridgeshire, West Wratting.  His eight siblings include a an older sister Susan b.1838 and younger brother Christopher b.1840 whose births are on free bdm with 2nd given name Ketteridge/Kitteridge, but no registration on free bdm for Lazarus.

Marriage
POTTER Joseph    
KITTERIDGE Hannah              
17 Oct 1818      Shudy Camps, Cambridge, England

Lazarus's age was given as 42 years at the time of his marriage in 1889 ie b.1845 however he was marrying a much younger woman   Mary Hannah HUDSON gave her age as 25 years in 1889 ie b. 1864 however her death registration shows a birth in c1859.  Pity Lazarus's father is noted as unrecorded on the marriage reg.

The Lazarus POTTER arriving in 1855 aged 15 is a match with the Lazarus b. 1839 on the 1841 census. 

Something not adding up here if the newspaper information is correct.

Cando

 
 

[sparrett]

Yes Cando
I do agree there are conflicts in the dates.

http://www.royalblood.co.uk/D112/I112992.html

The author of this tree { others' work viewed always with caution!} lists the children to JOSEPH and HANNAH, but LAZARUS is not there among the offspring.

The birthing schedule is steady and there is not even a real gap where he may have arrived.First child 1819. Last 1845. So where he came from on the census is a mystery.

We could consider perhaps that he was "adopted into the family".

Sue

[cando]

You certainly have a point Sue. Susan is 4 years, Lazarus is 2 years  and Christoper 1 year  on the 1841. 

Perhaps Susan was not immediately registered at birth as she would be noted as 3 years of age on the 1841 census which was taken on 7 Jun 1841.  Civil reg only commenced in July 1837 so perhaps not everyone was prompt in registering their offspring as they should have been.  I understand it was not compulsory.  I found this snippet quite interesting Originally, the registrars had to travel around and visit the people who had an event and make a note of the details. A new Act of 1874 removed this and it was up to the people to visit the local registrar office to record the event. 

Births Mar 1838   
POTTER Susan Ketteridge  Linton 14/77

Births June 1840
POTTER Christopher Kitteridge  Linton 14/71

If you do a search for a Lazarus POTTER and no other identifying data, on the 1841 census, there is only one result...the following.

1841 Census West Wratting, Cambridgeshire
POTTER, Joseph 40     Not born county         
POTTER, Hannah 40       
POTTER, Elizabeth 20       
POTTER, James  15    
POTTER, Hannah  15    
POTTER, William 13    
POTTER, Josiah   9    
POTTER, Joseph 6    
POTTER, Susan  4        
POTTER, Lazarus 2    
POTTER, Christopher  1      All born county except Head of house, Joseph who on the 1851 census is born Suffolk.

1851 Census does not show a younger son than Christopher.  There are two grandsons James 5 years and Albert 11 months. 

Hannah is aged 51 on the 1851 census...possibly her birth below as place of birth is H......., Cambridge.

KETTERIDGE Hannah
Birth 14 Apr 1798  Horseheath, Cambridge Eng.             
Baptism 28 Apr 1798  Horseheath, Cambridge, Eng         
Father Christopher KETTERIDGE     Mother Mary

I haven't seen any online tree so can only work from the indexes and census.

South Australian Government Gazette 1859
List of unclaimed Letters at the General Post Office at June 1859
POTTER, Lazarus

Brands South Australian Directory 1901
POTTER Lazarus P 7 7

South Australian Directory 1924
POTTER Lazarus lbr Wolseley
POTTER Richard lbr Wolseley
POTTER S lbr  Wolseley

I wonder about Nazareth as Walter's father on the 2nd marriage.  I would suggest an error...both biblical names.

Cheers
Cando

[tina09]

Thank you, especially for the news paper article I have one from an adelaide paper. From what I researched Lazarus was born in 1837 to Elizabeth Potter and William Martin in Cambridgeshire, I have a copy of the extract and everyone assumes that Joseph and Hannah are his parents based on the censes. His age quoted in the newspaper stories do appear to be wrong based on the birth record.

Walter Potter had 3 children in his 1st marriage, Edwin Leslie, Mary Adelaine and Edith Annie. I think he had a sister Alice but I am certain that their was at least 1 more. This is where I get really stuck Trying to find out more on Walter.

[cando]

Hi

everyone assumes that Joseph and Hannah are his parents based on the censes.

including me   

His age quoted in the newspaper stories do appear to be wrong based on the birth record.

and on the death indexes.  Have you seen the headstone at Bordertown Cemetery.

Was the immigration record of Lazarus aged 15 years on the CAROLINE in 1855 correct?

Cheers
Cando

[krisesjoint]

Lazarus' baptism is listed in the linked thread on the Cambridge Board.

His birth lists him as MARTIN

MARTIN Lazarus Martin Sep 1/4 1839 Linton 14 73

It looks like his uncle was aboard the same ship. Will check the details on the passenger list at the library.

Cheers Kris 

[tina09]

I think it would be about right. Cambridgeshires CAMDEX online records have him being born 5th July 1839 died 27 July 1936 which means he was more like 97 when he died, Yes I have a copy of the Headstone at Bordertowm Cemetery

[krisesjoint]

Yes interesting the age seems about 10 years out. Death, burial  and MI all list him as 107 - alas no help to you

MI Bordertown

Larazus Martin POTTER 1829-1936
Mary Hannah Wife of above 1863-1942
James son of above d 1900 aged 8 years
Albyn son of above died 1907 aged 3 months

Burials at Bordertown

POTTER

Constance M 19 May 1907 aged 38 of Wolseley
Richard James 9 Sep 1931 aged 63 of Kaniva Vic
Lazarus Martyn 29 July 1936 aged 107 of Bordertown
Walter 13 Dec 1941 aged 76 of Wolseley
Mary Hannah 9 Nov 1942 aged 83 of Nhill
Beryl May 7 Apr 1949 aged 59 of Wolesley
Harry 17 Jul 1952 aged 58 of Wolseley

Cheers Kris