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COMPLETED: Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« on: Saturday 16 January 10 08:45 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for descendants of Henry and/or William Eyre (siblings) born about 1870 in Sheffield. (Sons of Thomas Eyre - a filemaker, and Mary Anne Eyre).
Other siblings are Ann Elizabeth Eyre (bn c. 1859), and Mary Eyre (bn c.1861)
I am researching the father (Thomas') brother Henry, (my ggrandfather) and can assist with much general family information.
** I can track this family through to the 1871 Census but cannot find any of them after that date.
Anyone descended from this line can possibly assist me in tracking this (my) Eyre line back prior to the 1790's.
Thanks
Ed. Eyre (NZ)
EYRE :        Sheffield - Yorkshire
COX:          City of Oxford
NASH:         Edmonton - Middlesex
CULL:          Canterbury - Kent
GILLIES:      Paisley - Renfrewshire
O'CONNOR: Limerick, Ireland  ~ 57th Regiment of Foot
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Re: Looking for Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 January 10 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ed

Just to clarify - is the entire family missing after 1871 - which is:

RG10/ Piece: 4695/ Folio: 122/ Page: 45 - Sheffield, Brightside Bierlow,
Thomas 38 (abt 1833),  Mary A 34 (b Stockport Yks abt 1834), Ann E 12 (abt 1859), Mary 10 (abt 1861),Henry 2 (abt 1869), William 1 (abt 1870) - All born Sheffield except Mary A.

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Re: Looking for Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 January 10 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ed

Possible 1881?

1881: 20 Norroy Street - Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
Head: Mary Ann EYRE 43, widow, Charwoman, b Sheffield
Son: Ralph EYRE 13, Scholar, b Sheffield
Son: Wm EYRE 10, Scholar, b Sheffield
Son: Chls EYRE 3, b Sheffield
Lodger: Major DARNELL 34, married, Labr Iron Wks, b Bigs?, Lincolnshire
Lodgers Wife : Ann DARNELL 21, married, b Sheffield
Lodgers Dau: Edith Ann DARNELL 3, b Sheffield
Lodgers Dau?: Christiana DARNELL 1, b Sheffield

FreeBMD:
BIRTH: Ralph Henry EYRE - Mar Qtr 1868 - Sheffield

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Re: Looking for Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 January 10 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ed

Yes, I think the 1881 is right

Here is Ralph Henry in 1901 at the same address - sister Mary in the household, right age to match the 1871 daughter Mary.

1901: 20 Norroy Street,  Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
RG13/ Piece: 4379/ Folio: 176/ Page: 37
Head: Ralph H EYRE 33, single, Conical Spring Temperer [worker] b Sheffield
Sister: Mary EYRE 39, single, b Sheffield (abt 1862)
Brother: Charles EYRE 22, single, b Sheffield [imbecile]

DEATH: Ralph Henry EYRE - age 40 - Sheffield

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Re: Looking for Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 January 10 12:14 GMT (UK) »
1881: 20 Norroy Street - Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
Head: Mary Ann EYRE 43, widow, Charwoman, b Sheffield
Son: Ralph EYRE 13, Scholar, b Sheffield
Son: Wm EYRE 10, Scholar, b Sheffield
Son: Chls EYRE 3, b Sheffield
Lodger: Major DARNELL 34, married, Labr Iron Wks, b Bigs?, Lincolnshire
Lodgers Wife : Ann DARNELL 21, married, b Sheffield
Lodgers Dau: Edith Ann DARNELL 3, b Sheffield
Lodgers Dau?: Christiana DARNELL 1, b Sheffield

Mrs DARNELL is nee Ann Eliza/Elizabeth EYRE  ;D - lodgers maybe, but true relationship to the Head,  Mary Ann:  is son-in-law, daughter & grandchildren :

MARRIAGE: Dec Qtr 1876 - Sheffield
Major DARNELL and Ann Eliza /Ann Elizabeth EYRE
on same page - 9c, pg 477

I think Ann's birth was registered as Ann Eliza - Jun Qtr 1858 Sheffield. The only possible one I see.

http://sheffieldindexers.com/ParishBaptismIndex.html
Darvill, Jemmie (of 20 Norray St, born ??).
Baptised August 21, 1890, by E Linley at Emmanuel Church, Attercliffe.
Parents :  Annie & Major (Lab).

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Re: Looking for Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 January 10 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Possible death of the father/husband:
Thomas EYRE 36 - Mar Qtr 1872 - Sheffield

http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/BurialIndex.html
EYRE, Thomas (Filesmith, age 36).
     Died at Graystock Street/ Buried on January 4, 1872 in Consecrated ground/
     Grave Number 14, Section F1 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
     
In same grave are:
EYRE, Alfred age 1 (Son of John EYRE) bur 1861, died at Corby St,
EYRE, Helena age 8 days, (Dau of Thomas EYRE) bur 1862, died at 33 Marshall St.
EYRE, Thomas age 2 & half (son of Thomas EYRE), bur 1868, died at Greystock St
MASON, Jane age 48 (wife of George MASON), bur 1875, Died at 24 Andover Street

If you look at Norroy St on a map, you will see it's location  in realtionship to  streets Corby, Graystock, Saville .

I think the combined family of :
Widow Mary Ann EYRE with her unmarried children Mary, Ralph H, William & Charles, along with  her married daughter:
Ann DARNELL & her  husband Major & their children

are all missing off the 1891 Census where by all accounts, they should be at 20 Norray Street.  I can't find hide nor hair of any of them.

1891: District 48 Brightside Bierlow -contains  the parts of Norroy Street lying between Greystock Street & Corby Street and is  recorded in RG12/ Piece: 3834/ Folio 85/ Page 38 to page 40.  Page 40 is the last page of that Folio and ends with 34 Norray. In all, even numbers 22 to 34 Norray are there and also odd numbers 23 to 31.

1891: District 47 Brightside Bierlow - seems to have the other part of Norray - the part which runs between Saville & Graystock. It ends with 18 Norray. No 20 and no 21 can I find. I suspect 20 may be on the cnr of Greystock - partly because of the address given for the Thomas EYRE who died 1872.

Possible death of the mother/wife:
Mary Ann EYRE 56 - Mar Qtr 1894 - Sheffield

So only the daughter Ann Eliza is producing descendants so far - her siblings Mary, Ralph Henry  and Charles almost certainley had no children, going by what we see above.   

If the Thomas EYRE who died 1872 is the right one, Charles can't be his son  but that's not to say Thomas' widow isn't the mother  - Mary Ann would have been around 40 when Charles was born and older mothers have a higher chance of a Downs Syndrome baby which Charles may well have been - tagged as he was with the 'label' imbecile?  Then again - -  I wonder if Charles was the illigitimate son of the daughter Mary,  passed off as her brother? 

Which leaves the last known sibling, William b abt 1870 to look at..

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AMBLY
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Re: Looking for Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 January 10 13:39 GMT (UK) »
The most likely  match for William is this one:

1901: 81 Danville Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
RG13/ Piece: 4376/ Folio: 163/ Page: 16
Head: William EYRE 31, Overhead Steam Crane Driver in Steelwks, b Sheffield
Wife: Martha EYRE 30, b Sheffield
Dau: Mary Ann EYRE 4, b Sheffield

Only likely marriage 1881 to 1901 is:
FreeBMD: Dec Qtr 1895 - Sheffield
William EYRE and Martha BLYTHE on same page.

I can see no match for this William on the 1891, strengthening the suspicion he is the right one and is part of the missing household in 1891.

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AMBLY
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Re: Looking for Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 January 10 14:01 GMT (UK) »
And for completeness, the DARNELLs in 1901:

1901: 245? (or 275) Greystock St, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
RG13/ Piece: 4379/ Folio: 164/ Page: 13
Head: Fred WRIGHT 24, General Labourer Steelwks, b Sheffield
Wife: Edith WRIGHT 23, b Sheffield
Dau: Nellie WRIGHT 3 mths, b Sheffield
Boarder: Anne E. DARNELL 42, married, b Sheffield
Boarder: Annie DARNELL 18, unm, Confectioner Sweet (worker), b Sheffield
Boarder: Ruth DARNELL 7, b Sheffield
Boarder: Major DARNELL 45, married, Blacksmiths Striker (worker) b Brigg, Lincolnshire

Edith WRIGHT is their daughter (the one age 3 in 1881)
FreeBMD MARRIAGE - Dec Qtr 1900 - Sheffield
Edith DARNALL & Fred WRIGHT on same page.

Also of interest, while 20 Norroy Street isn't found in 1891 (by me at least!)  - Nr 24 is there and occupied by James DARNILL age 39 b Brigg, Lincs and his wife Elizabeth & chidren. He is Major's brother (per 1861 census). In 1901, James is still at that address and they have a nephew, George BIRCH age 6, with them. (James' son Edwin age 25 in 1901 is also described by that unfortunate term "imbecile").

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AMBLY
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Re: Looking for Descendants of Henry or William Eyre ( born c. 1870, Sheffield)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 January 10 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Really impressive work Ambly!
I am extremely grateful for the effort you have made on my behalf.
I am still trying to sort all this out to my own satisfaction but it is obviously going to be of help in my delvings.
Many Thanks
Ed Eyre
EYRE :        Sheffield - Yorkshire
COX:          City of Oxford
NASH:         Edmonton - Middlesex
CULL:          Canterbury - Kent
GILLIES:      Paisley - Renfrewshire
O'CONNOR: Limerick, Ireland  ~ 57th Regiment of Foot
                                     (Crimea,India,New Zealand)

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